Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[Cavatt]

Nice review...but again, another outlet looking only at his full season apg, and not his progression during the season.

His uptick in playmaking at the end of the season was almost overnight when JB took over, and he still has halves and quarters where he is still shifting from "get mine, to get my guys going".

He needs to prove it, but it looked a lot like he was keeping his head up better.

 

[Mulroney]

Cavs Season Player Hiatus Review: Collin Sexton

www.fearthesword.com

I disagree with the subtitle of the article "After two seasons, I’m still not sure what Collin Seton’s floor or ceiling is. " I think he has shown his floor is a pretty effective scoring 6th man. As such he can be a valuable player in the NBA for a long time.

I do agree that his ceiling is unknown.

 

[Cavatt]

I disagree with the subtitle of the article "After two seasons, I’m still not sure what Collin Seton’s floor or ceiling is. " I think he has shown his floor is a pretty effective scoring 6th man. As such he can be a valuable player in the NBA for a long time.

I do agree that his ceiling is unknown.

But what if his floor is allstar and his ceiling is GOAT tho?

In the future they might be like, "Whew! Lebron chose ANTHONY DAVIS over Young Bull?"

 

[Mulroney]

But what if his floor is allstar and his ceiling is GOAT tho?

In the future they might be like, "Whew! Lebron chose ANTHONY DAVIS over Young Bull?"

OK -- I guess we never defined floor -- I would say a reasonable definition is "What would the player be if he only improves minimally from what he is now?"

 

[Cavatt]

OK -- I guess we never defined floor -- I would say a reasonable definition is "What would the player be if he only improves minimally from what he is now?"

I was just kidding. 6th man is his low end floor IMO because he doesn't need to improve at all to do that. He's better than most 6th men in the NBA right now.

His scoring is real. Very real. He's in rare company with his per minute stats and efficiency at his age.

Playmaking and defense will limit his ceiling, but if he can become adequate there, is he is an allstar.

 

[Mulroney]

I was just kidding. 6th man is his low end floor IMO because he doesn't need to improve at all to do that. He's better than most 6th men in the NBA right now.

His scoring is real. Very real. He's in rare company with his per minute stats and efficiency at his age.

Playmaking and defense will limit his ceiling, but if he can become adequate there, is he is an allstar.

I knew you were kidding. Everybody probably has a different definition of floor so this is the one I am using.

I would guess on the better teams he would be coming off the bench due to his defensive issues.

 

[TheAdmin]

Give me his ceiling. What player do you think he'll emulate, not in terms of his skillset but impact on the game.

 

[Derek]

Give me his ceiling. What player do you think he'll emulate, not in terms of his skillset but impact on the game.

CJ McCollum?

 

[Mulroney]

Give me his ceiling. What player do you think he'll emulate, not in terms of his skillset but impact on the game.

Not everybody's favorite guy around here but peak Isaiah Thomas if he learns to draw fouls?

 

[ansatsusha80]

Collin Sexton teams up with Foot Locker to surprise 20 graduating students with $20,000 scholarships

The Foot Locker Scholar Athlete Program awarded $20,000 scholarships to 20 students.

www.cleveland.com

 

[ansatsusha80]

I was just kidding. 6th man is his low end floor IMO because he doesn't need to improve at all to do that. He's better than most 6th men in the NBA right now.

His scoring is real. Very real. He's in rare company with his per minute stats and efficiency at his age.

Playmaking and defense will limit his ceiling, but if he can become adequate there, is he is an allstar.

Before,the pandemic I was saying Collin should work with Isiah Thomas to work on his defense. They're about the same height and have that dog mentality. If,not him I could see Sexton work with CP3 since they talk every week.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

CJ McCollum?

That's a pretty good comparison. I think that if his defense comes around, Collin's ceiling is even higher than McCollum. I looked at their numbers, and used their second season in the league as the point of comparison even though Sexton was actually two years younger in his second season than was McCollum in his second season. If you go just by age, McCollum wasn't even in the league when he was as old as Sexton is now:

https://www.basketball-reference.co...y2=2020&player_id2=sextoco01&idx=bbr__players

Collin is the better offensive player at this point in their careers, and he's two years younger than was McCollum. The biggest difference is defense. McCollum isn't very good, but Sexton is worse. But if Collin's ceiling includes become a league average defender, then I think he'd be a better player than McCollum

I'm going out on a limb and saying that Sexton's ceiling in terms of impact is John Wall. Not the distributor, but a much better outside shot.

 

[Cavatt]

Before,the pandemic I was saying Collin should work with Isiah Thomas to work on his defense. They're about the same height and have that dog mentality. If,not him I could see Sexton work with CP3 since they talk every week.

He was talking about CP3 once and the reporter asked, "what do you want to emulate from him?" I wanted him to say assists and defense, instead he said that smooth mid range. Only time I have been unhappy with how he sees himself.

I read Cavs facts today. Said Collin the most double digit scoring games in his draft class. Is that just because he never missed a game? 1st clippers game is the only one I know of this year off the top of my head where he didn't get at least 10

 

[Derek]

That's a pretty good comparison. I think that if his defense comes around, Collin's ceiling is even higher than McCollum. I looked at their numbers, and used their second season in the league as the point of comparison even though Sexton was actually two years younger in his second season than was McCollum in his second season. If you go just by age, McCollum wasn't even in the league when he was as old as Sexton is now:

https://www.basketball-reference.co...y2=2020&player_id2=sextoco01&idx=bbr__players

Collin is the better offensive player at this point in their careers, and he's two years younger than was McCollum. The biggest difference is defense. McCollum isn't very good, but Sexton is worse. But if Collin's ceiling includes become a league average defender, then I think he'd be a better player than McCollum

I'm going out on a limb and saying that Sexton's ceiling in terms of impact is John Wall. Not the distributor, but a much better outside shot.

I think it's tough to say Sexton is a better offensive player even with the added condition of "at this point in their careers"

CJ's offensive numbers would likely look a lot more impressive if he weren't sharing shots with Lillard on a team that's been in the playoffs every season of his career.

Ultimately, even if he reaches his ceiling I don't believe Sexton can ever be a number one offensive option on a good team, which is also how I see McCollum.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I think it's tough to say Sexton is a better offensive player even with the added condition of "at this point in their careers"

CJ's offensive numbers would likely look a lot more impressive if he weren't sharing shots with Lillard on a team that's been in the playoffs every season of his career.

Ultimately, even if he reaches his ceiling I don't believe Sexton can ever be a number one offensive option on a good team, which is also how I see McCollum.

It's always tough to project -- Sexton's work ethic is kind of a wildcard that makes it tougher than usual. I personally think it's most likely he ends up as something like C.J., and his ceiling is even higher. But I've always been a fan of Sexton's, so maybe my bias is showing.