Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[Derek]

Just curious, since I never ended up keeping up with advanced stats.. what exactly is average for those stats? Would be nice to look at these and immediately know if someone is at least average in TS or eFG.

This year:
eFG% was 52.8%
TS% was 56.4%

I think basketball reference actually just added a section recently that shows how a player did relative to league average is numerous statistical categories.



League-Adjusted is the category you want to look at.

FG+, 2P+, 3P+, eFG+, FT+, TS+, FTr+, 3PAr+ all show how the player did relative to league average. 100 is league-average and each point above or below is a 1% change from league average.

EDIT: Those stats are for KPJ. I thought it'd be easiest to look at a rookie so it would be a single line of stats.

 

[ansatsusha80]

The Unexpected Change Collin Sexton Needs To Silence The Critics

Collin Sexton is making the most of his opportunity with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But for his future with the Cavs to bear fruit, Young Bull needs to take a backseat in the rotation. While his 20.8 points per game and 38% shooting from beyond the 3-point arc look pretty, the question still looms...

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I don't understand,why people keep talking about his defense. I understand what they're saying but they talk about his shortcomings more than the stuff he does well.

Until,I hear the majority of Hawks and Mavericks fans talk about Doncic and Young's defense,I don't want to hear Cavs fans bitching and complaining about Sexton's defense.

I'm not saying to kiss ass but dayum the negativity needs to stop.

I wish people would let Garland, Porter and Sexton develop before shitting on them.

And,yes I know the difference between criticizing a player vs outright hating the player.

Sexton played better than Porter and Garland this season yet the writer thinks the Cavs should bench Sexton while starting Garland and Porter.....really..Sexton has the right to become the starter,especially when he outplayed Garland looked more lost than Porter and Dean Wade.

 

[Jordan]

The Unexpected Change Collin Sexton Needs To Silence The Critics

Collin Sexton is making the most of his opportunity with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But for his future with the Cavs to bear fruit, Young Bull needs to take a backseat in the rotation. While his 20.8 points per game and 38% shooting from beyond the 3-point arc look pretty, the question still looms...

cavsnation.com

I don't understand,why people keep talking about his defense. I understand what they're saying but they talk about his shortcomings more than the stuff he does well.

Until,I hear the majority of Hawks and Mavericks fans talk about Doncic and Young's defense,I don't want to hear Cavs fans bitching and complaining about Sexton's defense.

I'm not saying to kiss ass but dayum the negativity needs to stop.

I wish people would let Garland, Porter and Sexton develop before shitting on them.

And,yes I know the difference between criticizing a player vs outright hating the player.

Sexton played better than Porter and Garland this season yet the writer thinks the Cavs should bench Sexton while starting Garland and Porter.....really..Sexton has the right to become the starter,especially when he outplayed Garland looked more lost than Porter and Dean Wade.

Doncic is a better defender than Sexton. Young is the worst defender in the NBA.

I agree, overall, though. Right now, Sexton is better than Garland and Porter, and has flashed more promise than either. He works hard and is already a fun scoring guard.

 

[ansatsusha80]

Doncic is a better defender than Sexton. Young is the worst defender in the NBA.

I agree, overall, though. Right now, Sexton is better than Garland and Porter, and has flashed more promise than either. He works hard and is already a fun scoring guard.

I don't see those two fan bases nitpicking their shortcomings but somehow the media and the fans in Cleveland will nitpick a young players shortcomings.

I don't see,Hawk fans say Trae Young can't play defense,he should be benched despite scoring almost 30 a game..I wouldn't make sense at all.

It also doesn't help Sexton is on his fourth coach in two years while Trae and Luka is one their first. Maybe,he'll finally have some stability at the coaching position to help him get better on defensive side.

It just annoys me,how the media and fans just have this hatred towards Sexton.

 

[Jordan]

I don't see those two fan bases nitpicking their shortcomings but somehow the media and the fans in Cleveland will nitpick a young players shortcomings.

I don't see,Hawk fans say Trae Young can't play defense,he should be benched despite scoring almost 30 a game..I wouldn't make sense at all.

It also doesn't help Sexton is on his fourth coach in two years while Trae and Luka is one their first. Maybe,he'll finally have some stability at the coaching position to help him get better on defensive side.

It just annoys me,how the media and fans just have this hatred towards Sexton.

I think Luka may be the best player in the NBA at some point over the next 15 years. I don’t think it’s fair to Collin to compare him to that.

Sexton is a really good player in his own right and definitely does not get the respect he deserves from the national media. Nonetheless, I’m not sure if it is fair to blame Hawks fans for not watching the Cavs. Sexton will get his due when he is on a good team - Cavs or otherwise.

 

[bigfoot5415]

Lonzo?

Lonzo is done. The hype is over. He's a rotational piece at best.

 

[Ozone]

Some guards are not NBA ready that get taken in the lottery,and for a lot of armchair scouts that work for these sports networks have really no clue how to judge anyone beyond stats and opportunity. It's factual that it is rare to find any college player so underrated get drafted that high.
The justifiucation was all based on his speed,his second to none work ethic that every single person who ever talks about him makes reference too, and his fire to become great and silence the critics.He is doing that already.
The potential asset to any NBA roster starts with physical gifts and desire to maximize them, so unless you are looking at a kid who is already a dominant player like Ja Morant where you dont need to choose between high work ethic options like Sexton or better skilled ones like SGA that lacks the same drive as Sexton, you are always tempted to take the one who has more to prove. It is a better investment if it works out, but often the higher skilled option seems like the better choice until years later. Sexton has proved to be far better of a draft pick than other prospects taken ahead and right after him.
I mean Trae Young is an elite ball handler and passer, but he gives up as many points as he creates or more, so unless he is draining those 40 foot bombs over 40% it's difficult to beleive he will have more success than Sexton over the course of a career. Collin still has a long ways to go defensively and as a floor general but the track record so far should make every single Cavs fan confident he will continue to discredit the wannabe scouts.

 

[Derek]

Lonzo is done. The hype is over. He's a rotational piece at best.

He was pretty damn good for NO last year.

I don’t think he’s a superstar or anything, but he‘s a good player.

I think he’ll start for a lot of winning teams in his career.

 

[Ozone]

He was pretty damn good for NO last year.

I don’t think he’s a superstar or anything, but he‘s a good player.

I think he’ll start for a lot of winning teams in his career.

Zion and Hayes definitely opened up Balls game

 

[Derek]

Zion and Hayes definitely opened up Balls game

I also think he and Jrue are a very good fit together. It helps that both are plus defenders. Jrue brings more of a scoring punch than Lonzo though while Lonzo brings added playmaking.

Regardless of what Ingram does, I think the four guys we mentioned will be successful together next year assuming health.

 

[Cavatt]

He was pretty damn good for NO last year.

I don’t think he’s a superstar or anything, but he‘s a good player.

I think he’ll start for a lot of winning teams in his career.

Don't love Lonzo, but he would be a really good fit with Sexton, likely better than his brother.

I totally agree with what you are saying efficiency wise with ft's, but watching Harden chicken wing your arm clamped down on it, or Trae jump up through a guy on a screen initiating the contact doesn't do it for me. Tricking the refs doesn't impress me. I don't think it is basketball, and the playoffs largely agree with me.

Harden per 100 poss last year 14.9 attempts per game and then 11.4 in the playoffs. People still get fouls, but somehow you don't get them as much playing against star players. I'd guess as the rounds go on it gets worse and worse, but I don't know where to view those stats.

 

[Nathan S]

Zion and Hayes definitely opened up Balls game

Hayes hype is weird. He's a fun prospect, and put up nice per-minute stats, but there's a reason he fell out of their rotation. I'm not too torn up that we missed out on him.

 

[Cavatt]

You might not like it, but drawing fouls is a repeatable skill. TS% is basically a PPP measure. They (Maggette type guys) ARE efficient, you just don't like their style. That's fair, but, it's more of a "don't hate the player, hate the game type thing".

I wasn't dissing FG% because it was propping Collin up. I was dissing it because it's not a very useful stat.

He'd actually be third in eFG% behind just Luka and Trae. Luka's game inside the arc is astonishingly good.

I think TS% is the best measure of scoring efficiency while eFG% is the best measure of shotmaking.

Oh also, Collin should get more calls. I just hate seeing a dude jump into people getting the calls when a guy who goes to the basket and gets hit is considered "one of the most blocked players". He gets roughed up routinely and knocked to the ground, no call. He was elite drawing fouls in college by actually taking it to the basket, not manipulating the refs on jump shots.

 

[Cavatt]

Hayes hype is weird. He's a fun prospect, and put up nice per-minute stats, but there's a reason he fell out of their rotation. I'm not too torn up that we missed out on him.

Yeah, he seems like a worthwhile project, he might be good, but why do people think he should have gone 5?

 

[Nathan S]

Yeah, he seems like a worthwhile project, he might be good, but why do people think he should have gone 5?

Yup...great raw tools and I see the potential but he's as much of a project as anyone.