Never. It is always the only point.The Coleman thread has devolved in to grave digging posts.
The pick ended up sucking but here are his draft ranks / ratings:
PFF - 9
Matt Miller - 18
ESPN - 20
Mike Mayock - 25
Scott Wright - 28
Dan Kadar - 29
So at worst, he was universally thought of as a back half of the first round talent.....the Browns took him at 15 after a trade down netted them some additional capital. Seems within his possible range.
I think too many people are getting caught up on who was right and who was wrong with previous posts. That seems besides the point to me. The Browns made a relatively "safe" pick, by ranking standards and then traded that player for next to nothing 2.5 years later......trying to sort out why that may be seems more important than back patting on pick outcome.
So is this a scenario where just everyone was wrong about a guy? Or is it the Browns giving up too soon? Some mixture of both?
I'd imagine his combine did a lot for him. Elite athleticism plus elite production in college tends to equal a high grade.I remember a lot of mock drafts which had him in the second round in January through March. Coleman was a late riser, but it's true that most mock drafts reached a singularity that he was a first round pick by April. That doesn't mean they were correct, it means they heard enough buzz from other teams that he would be drafted in that range.