Darius Kinnard Garland

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#1) Ja Morant- PG Original Pick: #2​

#2) Zion Williamson- F Original Pick: #1​

#3) Darius Garland- PG Original Pick: #5​

#4) RJ Barrett- F Original Pick: #3​

#5) DeAndre Hunter- F Original Pick: #4​

 

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#1) Ja Morant- PG Original Pick: #2​

#2) Zion Williamson- F Original Pick: #1​

#3) Darius Garland- PG Original Pick: #5​

#4) RJ Barrett- F Original Pick: #3​

#5) DeAndre Hunter- F Original Pick: #4​

They've got Hunter too high and Reddish over Thybulle and Dort..

 

[mds]

And we’ve yet to see Zion stay on the court. Garland has played almost 100 games more than him.

 

[Peacedog]

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#1) Ja Morant- PG Original Pick: #2​

#2) Zion Williamson- F Original Pick: #1​

#3) Darius Garland- PG Original Pick: #5​

#4) RJ Barrett- F Original Pick: #3​

#5) DeAndre Hunter- F Original Pick: #4​

What would be the justification for putting Williamson over Garland? Certainly not anything related to what they've done since being drafted.

Darius has elevated his play to all star level and has been healthy. Zion has done neither. 30 NBA GMs starting a team from scratch would pick Garland over Williamson.

 

[Douglar]

What would be the justification for putting Williamson over Garland?

I imagine the thought process goes like this: "If Zion can jump this high when fat, imagine how high he could jump when he gets in shape?"

 

[pinoycavsfan]

 

[Cavatt]

What would be the justification for putting Williamson over Garland? Certainly not anything related to what they've done since being drafted.

Darius has elevated his play to all star level and has been healthy. Zion has done neither. 30 NBA GMs starting a team from scratch would pick Garland over Williamson.

Cam Reddish only dropped 2 spots.

Kevin Porter Jr is 24. I mean, off court stuff sure, but does anyone genuinely think Reddish is a better player? There's no evidence.

It says upside, and yeah if Zion was playing as much as Darius, he'd be doing really well. He was scoring 29 on crazy efficiency. He's a more realized talent than Oden. It's not based on nothing, but there are spots on that list that are

 

[red.]

Isn’t that the Shamgod? DG about to be an elite ball handler soon. Kyrie-lite.

 

[Adam]

Isn’t that the Shamgod? DG about to be an elite ball handler soon. Kyrie-lite.

Yeah looks like he is trying to add a functional shamgod to his bag of tricks

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

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#1) Ja Morant- PG Original Pick: #2​

#2) Zion Williamson- F Original Pick: #1​

#3) Darius Garland- PG Original Pick: #5​

#4) RJ Barrett- F Original Pick: #3​

#5) DeAndre Hunter- F Original Pick: #4​

Hard to say you'd draft Zion over Garland at this point just due to health. He's been great when healthy - but losing the whole season is rough. On his talent, you draft him ahead of Garland - but Garland is far more reliable.

 

[adam81king]

Isn’t that the Shamgod? DG about to be an elite ball handler soon. Kyrie-lite.

That wasn't the Shammgod. *Maybe* the Shammgod Wells, but absolutely not *The* Shammgod. The Shammgod is about changing directions, and DG is going straight. It looks like DG was getting his "pat pat" better, with some variations on that. Examples would be what Harden does to get into the lane before his gather, or Kyrie is exceptional at. The most memorable one is what Iso Joe did to Paul Pierce to make him fall to his knees when Joe played for Brooklyn and Pierce was with the Celtics.

 

[red.]

Yeah looks like he is trying to add a functional shamgod to his bag of tricks

That’s what I was thinking as well. Good for him. A lot of the elite ball handlers have that move in their bag.

 

[inliner311]

Cam Reddish only dropped 2 spots.

Kevin Porter Jr is 24. I mean, off court stuff sure, but does anyone genuinely think Reddish is a better player? There's no evidence.

It says upside, and yeah if Zion was playing as much as Darius, he'd be doing really well. He was scoring 29 on crazy efficiency. He's a more realized talent than Oden. It's not based on nothing, but there are spots on that list that are

It's 50/50 production vs upside for that redraft. I think Reddish still has upside especially with his size/length and tools he has, if that comes together he could be a more useful player than KPJ. KPJ has also gotten alot of opportunities in both minutes and touches for Houston, that could be the limit to his upside for there redraft. I do think he is too low on the list, he should be much closer to Reddish.

I think Zion over Garland is if you can figure out how to properly use Zion, it could be a big advantage and a mismatch. Zion being a mismatch is basically a huge part of Zion's potential.

 

[wee zer]

It's 50/50 production vs upside for that redraft. I think Reddish still has upside especially with his size/length and tools he has, if that comes together he could be a more useful player than KPJ. KPJ has also gotten alot of opportunities in both minutes and touches for Houston, that could be the limit to his upside for there redraft. I do think he is too low on the list, he should be much closer to Reddish.

I think Zion over Garland is if you can figure out how to properly use Zion, it could be a big advantage and a mismatch. Zion being a mismatch is basically a huge part of Zion's potential.

Yes, Zion is still a game breaker in a way that Garland will never be. It's a big *if* but IF you believe Zion can get on track physically then you make a long term gamble there on him over Garland. This is all just fun fantasy drafting though and if the money was really in your hands you might take the safer pick in Garland. We'll never know what the pros really believe about Zion's ability to be sustainably successful until it's played out.

Cam is interesting because people keep asking "what could this guy be?", but everyone else in his class has showed it by now. No one else on that list is really a big *?*. If you don't know me by now...

 

[CleveRocks]

I would take a flyer on zion, but not at 231 million dollars.. on our squad you play him 15 minutes a game, where he is an absolute wrecking ball inside, then deploy our suffocating defensive squad between spurts..

Cam Reddish: he was the youngest wing in that class, playing behind hunter. I think he would have done better in Cam Johnsons slot in Phoenix.. But there are red flags aplenty.. I don't think he fits in our culture. I fear he is being put in a vulnerable position in new York. I mean his role model may wind up being Julius Randall...