Cedi Osman Goodbye & Good Luck

[inliner311]

I think Cedi has talent - good size, moves well, decent handles, great looking shot (that doesn't go in as often as it looks like it should). But there is something that's just not working in Cleveland. Sometimes a guy needs a change of scenery - new coach, new teammates, new start - to get out of a funk. I wonder if a trade might be the best thing for him and the Cavs.

His handles just aren't good enough and should have been a focus of his development. Having so many different coaches really just shows the lack of focus in game and how the Cavs have developed him. If he isn't hot from 3, he has nothing to go to. I remember he use to slash alot and now that has basically disappeared from his game.

I think early on we saw that Cedi was a player that tried to mimic the players around him. The problem is he doesn't have someone to mimic now and hasn't for the last two seasons.

 

[Futuredome]

Bench Okoro and start Osman to show case the talent??

 

[2 For The Brew]

I can't even.

He's turned into a Turkish Wiggins.

His offensive and defensive box plus minus are nearly identical to Wiggins.

 

[cabs]

He was bad last season but this is a whole new level of suck

 

[cavsball]

I think a trade now would be good for both sides. Right now, Cavs do not need what Cedi brings to them. I say they need a player that can create for himself offensively and more raw and natural offensive talent. And Cedi does not fit into their timelines.

On the other hand, I think Cedi needs a team that has more ball movement and structured offensive plays. I think Cedi is a kind of player that plays best when his role in the team is clear and his role has clear boundaries. When he is too much free on what to do, he tries to do a lot of things and his play gets erratic. This is why his first year with Cavs was good. The team had a clear hierarchy, his role was clear. He did not force any play, nor was he allowed to. His role was to play clean and efficient, sustain ball movement, bring energy offensively and defensively, hit open shots and do occasional cuts to the basket.

And contrary to the popular belief, I think his 19-20 season was better than 18-19. His offence mainly consisted of hitting open or at least set shots, off ball cuts to the basket and open dries to the basket. He was invisible on offence sometimes, that is I think why some people think as 19-20 as a step back. However, this was I think more due to the lack of ball movement and offensive system and due to the fact that Cedi was not a natural go-to guy on offense, so ideally he would never have a high usage. But Cedi was more efficient when the opportunity rose and his shooting percentages show that.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Sit him out too or try to show case him for a trade... His value will plummet otherwise. Bah

 

[Rich]

Twice last night he sulked when Sexton didn't pass him the ball.

One of those times was when Sexton used him as a decoy to try a no-look to Okoro under the rim. It didn't work, but it was the right idea.

What's not ok is for a guy who is gunning like this while shooting so poorly to be upset he isn't always getting the ball when he's open. The entire team knows he's going to shoot it no matter what. He's not playing the right way. He's not looking to make an extra pass.

 

[cabs]

 

[BigZ94]

 

[BigZ94]

Read on a Facebook post that Osman in Turkish translates to mason? If true very fitting that he’s carrying on the family tradition of laying bricks

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Last night Windler grabbed a long rebound and started up the floor with Cedi on his left. After crossing the time line Windler saw defenders ahead and decided to give the ball to Cedi and started to give him a bounce pass, but then realized Cedi was lagging behind and had not crossed the half court line yet. Windler froze and the loose ball was stolen and converted into a bucket.

This caused relentless homer and cheerleader Austin Carr to point out that Cedi was loafing up the floor and that's what caused the turnover. You almost never hear Carr criticize a member of the Cavs, but he called out Cedi last night for dogging it.

Yes, Windler should have glanced over to make sure Cedi was with him before releasing the ball, but Windler was not exactly sprinting so it's understandable that he assumed Cedi would be there. I replayed it and sure enough, Cedi was doing his best Kevin Love imitation, jogging slowly along making no attempt to catch up to the ball or get ahead of it and possibly create an open shot for himself or somebody else.

I would have pulled his ass out right then and there and he would have never seen the court the rest of the night. Osman only played 19 minutes. He wasn't tired or winded. When you're a bench player your job is to come in with energy and play with max intensity until you're exhausted and get taken out. You're not going to play 36 minutes so no need to pace yourself or take plays off.

I'm done with this guy.

 

[Nphan]

He still think he's that dude because LeBron likes him.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

The Athletic has a column on players who could be dealt at the deadline. Here's their writeup on Cedi:

It will be difficult for Koby Altman to find a new home for Osman because he will be paid $8.1 million next year and $7.2 million in 2022-23 before a non-guaranteed final season. That is simply too much money for a wing who has not proven he can score or defend well enough to justify a high-end rotation spot.

The other big challenge is the duration of Osman’s deal, as the 25-year-old does not make sense in a deal for a worse contract because there are not that many other role players with multiple years of fully guaranteed money out there. Expect Osman to stay in Cleveland for now, but a strong second half or beginning to next season could open up new destinations.

Geez, we're stuck with him for two more years.

 

[Futuredome]

The Cavs thought Love, Osman, Nance and Clarkson were the way to go after Lebron left on his business trip to LA. This organization amazes me with bad evaluation.

 

[red.]

The Athletic has a column on players who could be dealt at the deadline. Here's their writeup on Cedi:

It will be difficult for Koby Altman to find a new home for Osman because he will be paid $8.1 million next year and $7.2 million in 2022-23 before a non-guaranteed final season. That is simply too much money for a wing who has not proven he can score or defend well enough to justify a high-end rotation spot.

The other big challenge is the duration of Osman’s deal, as the 25-year-old does not make sense in a deal for a worse contract because there are not that many other role players with multiple years of fully guaranteed money out there. Expect Osman to stay in Cleveland for now, but a strong second half or beginning to next season could open up new destinations.

Geez, we're stuck with him for two more years.

Cedi deal never made sense to me. He proved nothing and got paid. Altman has been a nightmare.