Dean the Dream Wade

Who is the best undrafted Cavs player ever?

  • Jose Calderon

    Votes: 4 3.0%

  • Earl Boykins

    Votes: 9 6.7%

  • Kevin Ollie

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Matthew Dellavedova

    Votes: 73 54.1%

  • Smush Parker

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Scott Williams

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chris Anderson

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • David Wesley

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ben Wallace

    Votes: 38 28.1%

  • HOrnyforDean!

    Votes: 9 6.7%
  • Total voters
    135
This just seems like one big disconnect in priorities.

We have 1 person with a personal connection to Dean who wants what’s best for Dean and a bunch of other people who want whats best for the Cavs. What a shock on RCF.

Doesn’t really mesh, and the want for what’s best for Dean I think clouds the complaints lobbed at the Cavs.

Both kind of go hand in hand though. Cavs are good with Dean on the floor and the Cavs have a good crop of flexible bigs and high usage guards that let Dean play to his strengths and them be viewed as strengths, whereas on a worse team with worse fitting parts albeit a larger role Dean wouldn’t have the impact he has on winning or defense or effecting lineups as positively as he does here, which is being argued in his favor as a reason to play more.

I have argued elsewhere and I will continue to do so, Dean should start at the 3 for the Cavs over Strus. His low usage and passive nature to keep the ball moving I think plays a better role amongst the 4 best players on the team vs Strus who is a much higher usage player. So I’m all for seeing more Dean. But I don’t get the complaints just yet considering his starting point and his limitations as a player that I think would get exposed on every team save for a handful.

And forgive me if I don’t feel sorry for an undrafted player being told to carve out a niche role and focus on making a few things strengths early on in their career to earn meaningful PT in the NBA, again as an undrafted guy, a priority.

Usually what every franchise asks of a low pick or an undrafted guy. Rebound well, or defend well, or pass well, or shoot well, earn your spot and expand your game from there.

Why that’s being treated as a negative against the Cavs makes no sense to me when almost all of the league operates this way with undrafted guys.
 
BimboColesHair said:
This just seems like one big disconnect in priorities.

We have 1 person with a personal connection to Dean who wants what’s best for Dean and a bunch of other people who want whats best for the Cavs. What a shock on RCF.

Doesn’t really mesh, and the want for what’s best for Dean I think clouds the complaints lobbed at the Cavs.

Both kind of go hand in hand though. Cavs are good with Dean on the floor and the Cavs have a good crop of flexible bigs and high usage guards that let Dean play to his strengths and them be viewed as strengths, whereas on a worse team with worse fitting parts albeit a larger role Dean wouldn’t have the impact he has on winning or defense or effecting lineups as positively as he does here, which is being argued in his favor as a reason to play more.

I have argued elsewhere and I will continue to do so, Dean should start at the 3 for the Cavs over Strus. His low usage and passive nature to keep the ball moving I think plays a better role amongst the 4 best players on the team vs Strus who is a much higher usage player. So I’m all for seeing more Dean. But I don’t get the complaints just yet considering his starting point and his limitations as a player that I think would get exposed on every team save for a handful.

And forgive me if I don’t feel sorry for an undrafted player being told to carve out a niche role and focus on making a few things strengths early on in their career to earn meaningful PT in the NBA, again as an undrafted guy, a priority.

Usually what every franchise asks of a low pick or an undrafted guy. Rebound well, or defend well, or pass well, or shoot well, earn your spot and expand your game from there.

Why that’s being treated as a negative against the Cavs makes no sense to me when almost all of the league operates this way with undrafted guys.
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I just dont see us starting Dean at SF because we need his minutes at PF. I know Niang gets them some, but that would give zero minutes to Merrill and less minutes to Okoro and Sturss as they are competing for minutes with Wade.

If you want to start a defense first guy, start Okoro at SF, bring Wade off the bench with Struss who can shoot.
 
Comeback kid said:
Good post and I certainly agree with your thoughts on Dean but unfortunately I just don’t get the vibe that it’s ever going to happen under JB. I hope I’m wrong... but fear I’m not. It’s just been the same scenario repeated over and over for 4 years. He’ll give Dean a little short run and then jerk it away. Same song…. Second verse.
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I think Wade could have helped more against the Bulls. He is big enough to wrestle inside, and we were getting killed on the boards.. but it's situational. Max is a better player, but with Mobley Allen are getting bullied Wade can help them more than Max or Okoro..
 
So. We've been told thag Dean has been instructed to do nothing but stand in the corner on offense and only shoot when wide open. We've also been told he's only gonna get 10mpg.

Question: what would happen if Dean let it fly with the frequency of Niang? If he's as good as We've been told at shooting, could he force himself onto the floor more? Could he get himself traded (and his family happy)? He'd definitely make himself more of a target for opposing defenses.
 
mds said:
The interesting part to me is Wade was considered a good shooter and Okoro was considered a non shooter.
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There's a lot of complaints about certain players gwtting minutes over Wade...but none of those players, even those known as weaker shooters (Okoro), are reluctant to shoot it. Even when they're struggling to connect (Niang), they take the shots, or drives. Maybe that is the key to Wade getting what folks think he deserves...stop being passive on offense. Can't play him much less, right?
 
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