Demarcus Cousins: Refuses to be Barkley, Ewing and Malone

[6.19.2016]

The main thing that a lot of posters here have no clue is about is the off court investments they do with the tech giants in the bay. Which is what gives them an advantage over some other cities. Add to that, SF is a beautiful city, and right there is the perfect storm.

The city is beautiful. The fans dont deserve it though for sure.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/25/nbas-iguodala-talks-tech-investing-and-vc-pals.html

I think posters here are well aware of the tech startup market there.

But it's almost like what's the point of watching the non-destination markets when UFA's in their prime are so hard to retain against them, right in their prime, and you at least have to pay more against the cap?

In too many cases, we basically act as farm systems for the destination markets.

LeBron coming back from more glamorous Miami to his homeland is a one-in-gazillion exception, and guys like Westbrook and George staying don't happen enough; it's all the sweeter when David markets win against Goliaths like that.

 

[Ozcavs89]

I dont get the point that players will like to live in LA more than any other city. During the season,they have minimal down time, always on the road, etc. Players earn more than enough money to base themselves in la during the off season, in summer when they can actually enjoy the environment and still live extremely comfortably in a city like cleveland during the season

 

[6.19.2016]

I dont get the point that players will like to live in LA more than any other city. During the season,they have minimal down time, always on the road, etc. Players earn more than enough money to base themselves in la during the off season, in summer when they can actually enjoy the environment and still live extremely comfortably in a city like cleveland during the season

Like I said a few pages ago, those different seasons are much of the problem.

The main reason NFL free agency has less imbalance is that you don't have to spend all of February in Cleveland or Green Bay.

 

[gourimoko]

I call bullshit that no other teams tried to sign him. You mean to tell me no team was willing to give him a 1+1 for 15-20M? Especially when he was going for a 75% discount? LOL. No reason the Pelicans wouldn't have offered that.

It doesn't appear any team with cap space was willing to do it, not even the Lakers who did initially covet Cousins.

 

[Tlyons]

It doesn't appear any team with cap space was willing to do it, not even the Lakers who did initially covet Cousins.

Soooo...


Great drafting and developing talent


AND


Ref help


AND


The luckiest team of alltime.





This shit ain't fair man.

 

[dcm226]

This is so relevant though. Gsw are like the trump administration of the nba.

 

[SmudgeHog]

!BREAKING NEWS!

Jesus Christ just agreed to a 3 year/16 mill deal with the Golden State Warriors, league source says. he plans on resigning before contract is up.

 

[wildfan]

Love this. LBJ good move!! With your talent on picking draft picks--- sure Magic will want your insight.

 

[CLEistheCITY]

It doesn't appear any team with cap space was willing to do it, not even the Lakers who did initially covet Cousins.

Even the fucking pelicans?

 

[inliner311]

Even the fucking pelicans?

I think the Pelicans offered him some sort of 2 year 40 million extension after the injury. I think that went out the window when Randle rights were released by the Lakers.

I actually think for the Cavs it wouldn't have been a bad pick up for the full MLE. We could have let him heal and brought him back mid-season. If he got healthy, we could have open the cap space to sign him to a max contract. The Cavs do have first hand knowledge of Achilles injuries though so Cousins might not have even been on our radar.

 

[SmudgeHog]

Honestly the only teams that would have signed him would be :

A: Teams that didnt need him - that if he completely failed in his comeback would say "oh well" and not really care - that could say to him "You know, we don't actually need you at all. We arent taking any ego crap from you. If you don't mesh with our chemistry, then you are out the door with no sense of loss on our part"

B: And Teams would also not need him next year, since next year, the team that signed him this year would be the only team not allowed to bid high for him next year (warriors would be limited to only 120% of the 5.3m they gave him this year) -SO, if he plays well, then all the teams in the league can offer him a nice contract - except the warriors who sacrificed that option by having him this year.

The number of teams that fit that criteria is basically the warriors. And maybe the rockets.

 

[KB]

Honestly the only teams that would have signed him would be :

A: Teams that didnt need him - that if he completely failed in his comeback would say "oh well" and not really care - that could say to him "You know, we don't actually need you at all. We arent taking any ego crap from you. If you don't mesh with our chemistry, then you are out the door with no sense of loss on our part"

B: And Teams would also not need him next year, since next year, the team that signed him this year would be the only team not allowed to bid high for him next year (warriors would be limited to only 120% of the 5.3m they gave him this year) -SO, if he plays well, then all the teams in the league can offer him a nice contract - except the warriors who sacrificed that option by having him this year.

The number of teams that fit that criteria is basically the warriors. And maybe the rockets.

Marc Stein is reporting that the Pelicans offered 2 years for $40 mil as of yesterday

https://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2018/07/demarcus_cousins_pelicans_exte.html

 

[gourimoko]

Marc Stein is reporting that the Pelicans offered 2 years for $40 mil as of yesterday

https://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2018/07/demarcus_cousins_pelicans_exte.html

Indeed, but they took the offer off the table after it was initially declined:

So they presented it to Cousins as a "now or never" kind of deal; and when Cousins decided that he couldn't accept that at the time, the Pelicans rescinded their offer. According to reports, the Pelicans did not approach Cousins with a formal offer at all last week, they just floated "numbers" by his agent.

So when Cousins says "I didn't get any offers," I think what he's saying is that, this past week, no one made a formal offer for him that he could actually sign. Teams may have wanted to trade for him, or engaged in talks with his agent; but at no point did he get an offer.

I think the Pelicans are just handing this info over to Stein to appease fans who are more than a bit curious as to how the Warriors could sign Cousins for $5.3M for one-year with no Bird Rights but the Pelicans couldn't re-sign him for say $15M with full Bird Rights...

I think the only answer to that is that the Pelicans may not have actually wanted him back; which is unsurprising to be honest.

 

[cavsfever]

two years $40 million would be a super fair offer to Cousins if NO actually made it. Given the history of achilles injuries and how hard they are to come back from

 

[KB]

Indeed, but they took the offer off the table after it was initially declined:

So they presented it to Cousins as a "now or never" kind of deal; and when Cousins decided that he couldn't accept that at the time, the Pelicans rescinded their offer. According to reports, the Pelicans did not approach Cousins with a formal offer at all last week, they just floated "numbers" by his agent.

So when Cousins says "I didn't get any offers," I think what he's saying is that, this past week, no one made a formal offer for him that he could actually sign. Teams may have wanted to trade for him, or engaged in talks with his agent; but at no point did he get an offer.

I think the Pelicans are just handing this info over to Stein to appease fans who are more than a bit curious as to how the Warriors could sign Cousins for $5.3M for one-year with no Bird Rights but the Pelicans couldn't re-sign him for say $15M with full Bird Rights...

I think the only answer to that is that the Pelicans may not have actually wanted him back; which is unsurprising to be honest.

Saw and I get what you're saying that but after that passage the article goes on to state

"The move shocked many around the league, especially after the Pelicans repeatedly expressed their desire to bring the big man on a new contract.

Once free agency started, the Pelicans had discussions with Cousins' representation about possible deals they were willing to pursue, but they never put a formal offer on the table, according to a source.

Stein also reported that the Los Angeles Lakers were approached with the opportunity to sign Cousins on "a one-year price point similar to the one that landed him in Golden State." But the Lakers turned down the offer."

Since it says the Pels offered that 2 for $40 mil late in the season after his injury. I understand the take it or leave mindset that may have been present.

While the article might be posturing from the Pels I think the truth is going to be somewhere in the middle, I'm guessing they discussed something like 2 years for between $20-25 mil with no option but didn't offer before Cousins group starting shopping at lower price points on a 1 year deal in an effort to maximize his earnings over his playing career once he's healed.

I don't blame him for going to the Warriors they are the one team in the league that doesn't need to rush him back from the injury to get him on the court and he'll be able to ease his way back into form since he won't have to be a workhorse as soon as he comes back either. It was probably the best decision he could have made from a personal / career standpoint if he's confident that he'll return to at least 85% of what he was pre-injury