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Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States

What are your feelings on President Trump's performance

  • Strongly Approve

    Votes: 13 10.5%
  • Approve

    Votes: 15 12.1%
  • Strongly Disapprove

    Votes: 72 58.1%
  • Disapprove

    Votes: 13 10.5%
  • No Opinion

    Votes: 11 8.9%

  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .

Green Demon

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What a nice way to say millions have been kicked off food assistance.

All those free-loading children. Priorities!

Also, Breitbart!

"The Trump administration also released a “public charge rule” last month which would deny green cards to immigrants or make it harder for them to obtain them if they have a history of using welfare benefits such as food stamps."

And no one is surprised.
Conveniently left out this portion that I found when looking into the numbers having to do with SNAP as well...

“In the absence of significant change, if we lose SNAP benefits, we can expect increases in both” food insecurity and poverty, she said.

As many as 500,000 children also could lose eligibility for free school lunch program, Waxman cautioned. That’s because states that automatically enrolled people to receive SNAP benefits, also enrolled children in the household to receive free school lunches.

So yeah I'm not a fan of taking food away from people that need food stamps, would it be great for everyone to be self sufficient and not need them, sure but that's not happening unless we overhaul portions of our society. When you have to spend more of your monthly budget when you are just riding that poverty line to just survive because you have to spend it on food rather then saving it or climbing out of debt that isn't exactly going to help the situations that these people are in.
 

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Of course it matters. In what world all of a sudden is it alright for a member of the government to steer government dollars to their business?

This has never been alright. This is why every POTUS before Trump divested themselves 100% from their businesses.

But not this guy, charging rent for his own protection at his resorts to the tune of well over $100 million.
Unless there is a mandate to use his hotels, I don't see any issue with people staying at them if it makes sense from a cost/travel perspective. I don't see why you should have to avoid the hotels just because he is President.

Lets not pretend lobbing does not happen between private business and those in the government. If Hilton or Marriott contributes to someones campaign does that mean we should not allow government workers to stay there. At the end of the day, if things are equal from a cost/convenience standpoint it is a no issue for me. If it turns outs there is more to the story I will change my view. If there is a mandate you have ti stay at a Trump hotel, the government is paying over market rate for a hotel then I 100% agree in it being looked into and being unethical and unfair.

In the most recent story, it benefited the American people if the Trump hotel was cheaper. How is that a bad thing?
 

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Conveniently left out this portion that I found when looking into the numbers having to do with SNAP as well...




So yeah I'm not a fan of taking food away from people that need food stamps, would it be great for everyone to be self sufficient and not need them, sure but that's not happening unless we overhaul portions of our society. When you have to spend more of your monthly budget when you are just riding that poverty line to just survive because you have to spend it on food rather then saving it or climbing out of debt that isn't exactly going to help the situations that these people are in.
I agree on this. I think it is a fine line, I am 100% for the program for those that need it. I also love that it is pushing people to go to work or be actively trying to get a job. The part that makes this hard for me is the kids part. Kids should not be punished because they got bad parents.

As for all social or welfare programs they need to be designed to help those in need, but also be designed to be an aid or short term solution for people. Where I get frustrated is when you have people who live off the system and do not try to be a contributing part of society.
 

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Unless there is a mandate to use his hotels, I don't see any issue with people staying at them if it makes sense from a cost/travel perspective. I don't see why you should have to avoid the hotels just because he is President.

Lets not pretend lobbing does not happen between private business and those in the government. If Hilton or Marriott contributes to someones campaign does that mean we should not allow government workers to stay there. At the end of the day, if things are equal from a cost/convenience standpoint it is a no issue for me. If it turns outs there is more to the story I will change my view. If there is a mandate you have ti stay at a Trump hotel, the government is paying over market rate for a hotel then I 100% agree in it being looked into and being unethical and unfair.

In the most recent story, it benefited the American people if the Trump hotel was cheaper. How is that a bad thing?
Yes it is a bad thing. Full stop. Elected officials do not have the government using their facilities no matter the cost. That is one of the very basic rules about conflict of interest that has been in place for a century.

And no, these things are not equal with lobbying from hotel owners.

And I knew the Republican talking point of "everyone already does it" would pop-up. No "they" don't do it and those that did have been found guilty of corruption and sent to jail. There is a huge difference between lobbyists lobbying, and an elected official steering business to their own interests.

I don't understand what is going with the Right, all of a sudden every questionable thing that politicians and elected leaders have avoided for decades and longer, is all of sudden ok for Trump to do, or "it's no big deal."

It is as I said: Trump will make people defend stuff that has been unacceptable forever.
 

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I was really young at the time, but didn't they make Carter sell his peanut farm? Something to that effect.
 

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To add some context to the discussion, here is an article from the Guardian (more than a year old):

Scottish government criticised over US military use of airport
SNP accused of hypocrisy for funding Glasgow Prestwick airport which has links to Trump

Snippet: "...A publicly owned Scottish airport is being used by the US military to launch frontline operations and is striking deals with Donald Trump’s golf resort in an effort to stem its heavy financial losses.

An investigation by the Guardian has revealed Glasgow Prestwick airport is a base for live missions by the US Air Force, while its executives have highlighted its close relations with President Trump’s nearby resort at Turnberry to promote its bid to become a spaceport backed by the US government.

Scottish opposition politicians accused the ruling Scottish National party of “breathtaking hypocrisy” over its attitude to the Trump administration and asked whether the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, had misled MSPs on the matter.

The coastal airport, 32 miles south of Glasgow, was bought for £1 by the Scottish government in November 2013, when Alex Salmond was first minister, to save it from closure. Between then and April 2017 the airport lost £26.5m as 500,000 civilian passengers a year went to rival airports.

It is eligible for another £7.7m in government loans this year to cover its continuing losses, which would take its total debts to the taxpayer to nearly £48m, plus interest. That is more than double the £21m ministers originally said would be needed to help return the airport to profit.

In an effort to stem its losses, Prestwick executives have attended military fairs across the US to pursue contracts to service cargo flights, troop transports and air-to-air refueling operations for the US Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, National Guard and the US Defense Logistics Agency....
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Lisa Ann was hot (kinda still is)
 

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I always felt Todd got a raw deal. He's just a typical Alaskan guy. Works on the Slope half the year. Fishes to feed his family. Mushes in the big sled races. Thinks perhaps Alaska is better off as an independent nation. I doubt he enjoyed much the national spotlight.

I hate to see such a long marriage break up. Sarah Palin. She sure fooled me. I predicted she'd be selected as the GOP VP nominee back in March of 2008. She seemed perfect: Young woman with a history of fighting corruption. Very camera friendly and outspoken like McCain. Was popular in Alaska and did well in the televised interviews I had seen while she was governor.

She gave one of the finest convention speeches of all time. Knocked it out of the park. And then she went nuts...

So, what do you conservatives think about Palin all these years later? @CleveRocks @cavsfan1985 @Huber.


Sarah Palin’s Husband Files for Divorce After 31 years: Report

Todd Palin appears to have filed for divorce from former Alaska governor and one-time vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, his wife of 31 years.

In a document filed Friday in Anchorage Superior Court, Todd Palin, 55, asked to dissolve the marriage, citing an “incompatibility of temperament between the parties such that they find it impossible to live together as husband and wife.”



The divorce filing uses initials rather than full names, but identifies the couple’s marriage date and the birth date of their only child who is a minor, Trig Palin. The filing asks for joint legal custody of the child.

Anchorage attorney Kimberlee Colbo is representing Todd Palin in the divorce. In a filing, Colbo said she would ask the court to designate the divorce confidential as it moves forward.

Colbo did not immediately respond Monday to a request for comment from Todd Palin. Sarah Palin, 55, was elected governor of Alaska in 2006.

The Palin family rocketed to national prominence in 2008 when Republican presidential nominee John McCain chose Palin as his vice-presidential candidate, making them household names and focusing the country’s attention on their hometown of Wasilla.

The marriage of Sarah and Todd, a commercial fisherman, snowmachine racer and oil field worker, was frequently on display in TV interviews, reality shows, books and other media appearances.



Palin resigned as governor in 2009.

Since leaving office, Sarah Palin has kept a low profile in Alaska politics, while maintaining a national profile through her books, speaking engagements and social media presence. The divorce filing was first reported by Anchorage blogger Craig Medred.



https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/anchorage/2019/09/09/todd-palin-files-for-divorce-from-former-alaska-governor-sarah-palin/
Palin was picked by McCains camp to be Dan Quail 2.0.. A Trojan horse to get conservatives to support the ticket while making them look stupid.. She was not ready for prime time, and McCains camp put her in awkward situations.. This was one of the instances of pissing off the conservative wing which led to Trump.
 

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Palin was picked by McCains camp to be Dan Quail 2.0.. A Trojan horse to get conservatives to support the ticket while making them look stupid.. She was not ready for prime time, and McCains camp put her in awkward situations.. This was one of the instances of pissing off the conservative wing which led to Trump.
I really don't think they intended Palin to look stupid.

It just happened. Which is odd, because up until then she seemed perfectly fine speaking during interviews.

McCain chose Palin because she was a female governor, who was young, good looking and had a compelling family life and built in anti-abortion story. And because she had a record of fighting corruption. On paper she checked all the right boxes for both conservatives and moderates.

She then stumbled and they made the enormous mistake of letting the media define her in the two weeks after the Convention. I can't believe they didn't do more to put her into good situations.

Alaska, BTW, is the most politically corrupt state in the Union thanks to the oil companies.
 

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I really don't think they intended Palin to look stupid.

It just happened. Which is odd, because up until then she seemed perfectly fine speaking during interviews.

McCain chose Palin because she was a female governor, who was young, good looking and had a compelling family life and built in anti-abortion story. And because she had a record of fighting corruption. On paper she checked all the right boxes for both conservatives and moderates.

She then stumbled and they made the enormous mistake of letting the media define her in the two weeks after the Convention. I can't believe they didn't do more to put her into good situations.

Alaska, BTW, is the most politically corrupt state in the Union thanks to the oil companies.
Well then she decided to start blowing her candidate budget on clothing...so that kinda indicated what was to come
 

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Well then she decided to start blowing her candidate budget on clothing...so that kinda indicated what was to come
And then it came out that she had used your power as governor to investigate a person that was in dispute with her sister.
 

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I agree on this. I think it is a fine line, I am 100% for the program for those that need it. I also love that it is pushing people to go to work or be actively trying to get a job. The part that makes this hard for me is the kids part. Kids should not be punished because they got bad parents.

As for all social or welfare programs they need to be designed to help those in need, but also be designed to be an aid or short term solution for people. Where I get frustrated is when you have people who live off the system and do not try to be a contributing part of society.
The GOP has been cutting these programs forever using the boogie-man of lazy parasites draining the system. It's a straw-man idea that millions of people are abusing the system (who are always, always portrayed as the urban poor) that is little more than a myth taken as gospel by Right-Wing media for the past 40 years.

But overwhelmingly people on these programs are those looking for work, and not "Welfare Queens."

Continually cutting these programs to combat "abuse" is nothing more than a bait and switch to continue to cut programs citing "decreased revenue" caused by the GOP's own tax cut schemes.
 

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