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He set the Browns back a year hiring Kitchens. He deserves to be canned.

In response, let me first say that I am joking.... sort of, but at the Browns, not at you.

He set the Browns back a year? What the fuck does that even mean? Set them back a year from WHAT? They've been set back ever since they left for Crackmore. How can they be set back a year when they never even got an invite to the New Year's Eve party???
 
Dorsey wanted to stick with this dickhead.

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There’s no arguing we are a disaster. Will we fuck it up again? Probably. But how could you not move on from this guy. He wanted to keep Kitchens. He can gtfo.
 
Irrespective of the move itself, one thing can not be questioned: the Haslams have no idea about culture-building and sustainability. It’s been a near decade of “rinse and repeat” and every time, we’re told “well what a brilliant, forward-thinking hire by the Browns,” only to flame out 12-24 months later.

It’s unsettling from a far, so imagine what NFL personnel must think? How do you attract talented front office people to an organization of knee-jerk change? How do you lure first-class talent to a damn footballing graveyard?

The mind boggles over the fact that just a single off-season ago, we were the hottest franchise in the NFL, doing everything right, going “full Dorse” and “if you don’t wear orange and brown, you don’t matter.”

Inexcusable excuse for a sporting franchise.
 
I just liked him as a scout. I'm so pissed off. Back to all the Manziel Mingo Gilbert Couch Weeden and Richardson picks. Big bottle of firewater tonight.
 
I just liked him as a scout. I'm so pissed off. Back to all the Manziel Mingo Gilbert Couch Weeden and Richardson picks. Big bottle of firewater tonight.

What good is scouting if he just wants lame duck coaches like Freddie? We went 6-10, that’s not good.

And he refused to work/keep good players he didn’t bring it. He was an egotistical prick.

Blame Haslam. He keeps hiring duds.
 
There’s no arguing we are a disaster. Will we fuck it up again? Probably. But how could you not move on from this guy. He wanted to keep Kitchens. He can gtfo.
If true he wants to Kitchens I get it. Just disappointing
 
Good.

hes as awful as he is arrogant
 
Felt like somebody talked to OBJ at some point in the last few weeks as his tune about the future made an abrupt change.

Sounds like word may have come down from on high that sweeping changes were on the horizon.
 
Dorsey was good at acquiring talent. Building a team and franchise... Not so much. See he had similar stuff happen when he was in KC. Also this feels different. I mean this feels like Haslam grew up.

What do I mean. I think a lot of experienced guys sold Haslam a bill of goods. Banner, Lombardi, Etc. I then think Haslam took their advice but wanted to do things his way. His way (business) may not always correlate to the NFL so there was push back. So a lot of smart people became snake oil salesmen to get a job with a new sports owner. Now I think the owner has had it with the Snake oil. If he is going to succeed or fail then it is going to be in his way.

What do I mean. Depo still has a job. Maybe we set up a structure where the FO (including strategy) comes together on how to plan, analyze, build a team. Then they say as a FO (which Haslam is a part of) we will give you the players. Here is 100 players to start the season with. Then once that happens get out. Meaning the coach picks his 53 with his staff (and maybe some FO involvement) on which players stay or go. This is why I think the analytics team stays in tact.

My "reading the tea leaves" is something like this.
President/CEO Jimmy Haslam
VP Strategy - Depo
VP football ops - Wolf
GM (pick a guy McC or McD can work with)
HC (McC or McD)

Then your "board of directors"
President/CEO
VP Strategy
VP Football
GM
HC

Also this would be a structure similar to the Steelers or Patriots.

As far as org charts... Who cares.

VPs report to the pres
GM reports to the VP of football ops
HC could report to the GM or CEO.

Make Dee the owner and put Jimmy in the capacity of CEO of the organization.

Fuck it run the team completely like a business. If anyone doesn't perform up to the standards then fire them like any other employee.

You need to post more. Solid stuff!



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You need to post more. Solid stuff!



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I tend to piss off too many people and things can get heated. Plus lurking is a bit more fun
 

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