..or a bunch of trades...
InRe Stretched Out: Could be that Morris, Myers and Morgan.. our M & M & M boys make up the fifth spot in the rotation presented as a rotation of these M'ers as the starter/follower/pen-long man. This would pretty much cover 6 to 8 innings every fifth day.. thereby keeping the bullpen rested.. and allowing these younger guys the chance to get stretched out while starting / playing every fifth day..
The net effect is a four man starting rotation and a bit of creativity fifth slot..
Thoughts?..
From analyzing the roster, are 40 is not even close to being set. I really do think a 3-4 prospect swap for an OF (and maybe with a C involved or a separate trade for a C) we only have 17 pitchers at the moment on the 40 man, one is likely to be sent to the 60 Day DL, and along with Naylor's spot as well, that makes us at the current moment have spots for 18 pitchers. I don't doubt this gets changed once the ability to make moves opens back up...
@CDAV45 as well since this isn't something we actually looked at yet, so with nothing better to do, let's get into our little fun debates haha
I just noticed that our pitching staff is actually set on paper. I know we will make moves, but if you look, we have the 17 pitchers, one out, so our starting and bullpen is essentially
SPs: Bieber, Civale, Plesac, Quantrill, TMac
Bullpen: Clase, Karinchak, Gose, Allen, Hentges, Sandlin, Stephan
Making it likely Vargas goes onto the 60 day DL...Pilkington, Morgan, Morris and Myers all to the minors.. so we only have 12 projected pitchers for 13 spots...
Whats interesting is Allen, Hentges, Sandlin and Stephan all likely will be multiple inning guys...
I actually think we would be a legit destination for veteran bullpen arms and I wouldn't even be surprised to see a guy like a Broom, Garza, Scott,
Mikolajchak get a big league roster spot out of camp.
Hentges was a big, northern, left handed kid....the epitome of a slow developer. Most players and pitchers drafted out of Northern climes take a long time to develope.
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Gsons idea is interesting, but nearly impossible to implement...and probably counter productive.
First of all, using a three man piggy back would mean that seven pitchers would be limited to working once every five days...which limits the amount of true relievers that can be carried...putting more strain on the relievers that remain, and limits Titos ability to go situational.
Throwing two or three IP every five days won't stretch out anybody...and would cut down on development.
Lets say 32 piggyback games....8 innings each....256 combined IP for three pitchers. IMO that won't prepare them for a full load in 2023.
Actually his idea isn't all that farfetched but you have it wrong... every 5th start in what he would be proposing would be more like a Stephan-Allen combo then into the bullpen. I actually see Allen and Hentges being effective as early relievers since our starting staff is right handed and having those two coming in often to face a lineup to face that type of lineup actually may be effective.
We don't lack arm talent in the pitching department but it's hard not to notice we have little depth in the bullpen.. depending on the timing of the trade I believe we will make, it actually wouldn't surprise me if we take someone in the Rule 5 draft like we did with Stephan..
If I was able to get off a trade before the Rule 5 draft I'd say RHP Matt Tabor from Arizona would be my choice... and also if I had a second spot maybe even C Blake Hunt from the Rays, he's a defensive first one sadly, but with upside. I think around who we have in place, he could develop fairly well as a catcher.... (now this is if we have open spots before the Rule 5).
We really do need to bring in a veteran relief pitcher, hopefully with closing experience...
