Eastern Conference Finals Game 3 : Cleveland Cavaliers @ Toronto Raptors, May 21st, 8:30pm

[Mr. Orange]

Mr. Orange - Are you REALLY that optimistic, or is this a persona that you've created?

It's a work in progress. Positive Mental Attitude. I see no need to worry until we get to an elimination game.

 

[Andrew]

It's normal for fans to over react to a loss. When you can base your emotions in reality you can sense this game 3 result means very little in the grand scheme of things.

 

[wremy]

Its all about energy...we didn't have any last night ... We gave up a lot of second chance points and settled way too much on offense

 

[godfather]

You can look at the game thread for game 1...I said before this series even started that games 2 and 3 will be the most competitive games in this series and I still stand by that. We will fix this up and close out the next 2 games.

I had it going 5. I did thought they'd win one game pretty comfortably.

I don't think they're a tougher match up than the Hawks. I try telling people series-to-series doesn't follow the same rhyme and rhythm from the previous one.

Just because we swept Atlanta, doesn't mean we'd sweep the Raptors. Even though I think they're inferior to Atlanta, personally. Maybe not by a lot.

Teams get hot, teams don't. Teams have let downs. This is part of the playoffs. It's only been happening since its existence.

Every good team has at least one total let down.

Game 3 was not disappointing to me. Of course we played bad but it was bound to happen.

Game 4 to me would be disappointing if we don't put them away in that game. That's just letting life back into a team that shouldn't have any.

How they respond is how you judge them. I'd be pretty disappointed if we don't win game 4. But I am pretty confident they will.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

Oh wow......... Man....

You really need to shut the fuck up..

Chuckles on a Cavs loss? Go fucking change your tampon. That's pure bitch mode right there dude.

Real talk.. Cavs lose and you come here chuckling? Fuck off.

Go Cavs.

Nah, don't you even try to come at me with that bullshit.

You blasted me for making a simple prediction, which wasn't even in response to you. And you got mad that I would even think about saying it would end in 5, GUARANTEEING that it would be a sweep. Don't play the victim card because you turned out to be wrong now. Own up to it.

And now you're getting all upset because I used a chuckling emoji, as if it has anything to do with how I feel about the Cavs losing? Honestly, grow the fuck up. Is it possible for you to admit you're wrong instead of making excuses or going off topic to shed the poster you're arguing with in a worse light? This happens constantly, where you make overzealous, best case scenario predictions, and when you turn out to be wrong, instead you choose to portray your opponent in the argument as a fake Cavs fan by making stretched or even nonsensical connections, relating to the other person' post(s). But when you're right, you can't get enough of yourself and you'll bring it up AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN (like the way past dead horse you keep beating with Jon in the Kyrie thread).

I'm done here, because I can sense after you respond, this impending back-and-forth conversation is going to get uglier and uglier.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

People were blasting you because you acted worried about Toronto. Kyrie and Love, both, on the same night had one of their worst games ever!

And with 5 minutes to go it was still within reach.

That's a team to be scared about?

Shit, they lose to almost anyone in the league with the way they played tonight. It was just a bad night. It happens. Toronto is garbage and they are going home in 5.

Worried? I said it would go 5 (the second best series outcome of eight) and people got mad because I didn't predict we'd sweep. It's a prediction and I'm free to make one that doesn't involve the best possible scenario. And now that it turn out I was right, I'm still wrong somehow?

People on here can never own up to the times they were wrong. Look through my post history and you'll see I have no problem admitting if I made an incorrect assumption or prediction, but the same can't be said for the majority of posters.

And honestly, it's not like Game 3 concerns me at all or affects my thinking that we'll take this series in 5. It's not about that. All I'm saying is that those who were extremely hostile towards me over simply saying we'd take it in 5 should own up to it instead of getting mad and trying to pin it back on me.

 

[gourimoko]

Nah, don't you even try to come at me with that bullshit.

Or what man? The fuck are you going to do about it?

You're the fucking worst with this shit.. You come on the site and laugh after the Cavs take a loss? Did you not read how many people have a problem with what you and others did?

You blasted me for making a simple prediction,

Tons of people blasted you and are still blasting you. And it wasn't over your prediction.

which wasn't even in response to you. And you got mad that I would even think about saying it would end in 5, GUARANTEEING that it would be a sweep. Don't play the victim card because you turned out to be wrong now. Own up to it.

Hey dumbass... You're not the only person that said Cavs in 5.

@jking948 made the case as to why it'd be Cavs in 5 as did a few other posters at the same time you did.

Did you not read the thread??

It was your non-reasoning that was comical, and the "Kyle Lowry" argument that was hilarious.

All of that was just comical... But coming on the site and laughing at a Cavs loss; yeah man, that's bitchmade.

And now you're getting all upset because I used a chuckling emoji? Honestly, grow the fuck up.

Look who's talking...

Is it possible for you to admit you're wrong instead of making excuses or going off topic to shed the poster you're arguing with in a worse light?

Look here man.. I've not gone off-topic, this is the game thread. You're laughing at the end of a Cavs loss made more than just me pissed off. If you think that's just confined to this thread, you'd be wrong.

This is not the general board of RealGM, and pussies who root against the Cavaliers so their silly-ass predictions come true typically get exposed. Notice the difference between how you acted after the loss and how others who also said Cavs in 5 behaved?

You want folks to "grow up" but I'm not sure if you really understand how pathetic it is to see someone post, once the game is out of reach, just how excited they are to see the opposing team win -- just because they wanted to be right so badly.

Hell, I don't think he Cavs would sweep OKC or the Warriors, but I'd be ecstatic if they did... I wouldn't come on here laughing about taking an L.

And besides, I think many of us pinned you as an anti-fan some time ago.

You got called out in the NBA Playoffs thread last week for sucking Warriors dick, more than one poster remarked that you kept posting these odd pro-Warriors comments; I personally called you out about talking up Steph Curry so tough like you were fucking dating him a few weeks back; and the folks in the Kyrie thread remember your bullshit comments about how all the other guards in the East were better than he is..

Raptors win one game, and you come out the woodwork?

Fuck outta here man... Who are you trying to fool?

 

[godfather]

All over a . No offense to you All4One1ForAll, but that reaction was not the one to go for after a loss. Not in this neck of the woods. You're going to get extremely hostile reactions to that.

I think you felt overly sensitive when you declared you rather face the Heat; over the Raptors given the choice.

Which implied worry and skepticism that the Raptors would be a threat to us. People gave you shit over that, not any prediction you made.

So we lose to the Raptors, and you want to be dead set on declaring to those people you were right and they were wrong. And you imply that you enjoy it.

This is why you're getting this reaction. No one gives a fuck about what prediction you made. Hell, no one really remembers this shit unless someone makes an outrageous one like Raptors in 4 or something.

People just gave you grief because you were acting like a worried mother over the Cavs facing a team that's pretty inferior to them.

I think you are a quality poster, but you do get way too worked up over silly things like this at times.

The team was bound to lose. It happen, time to move on.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

I personally still stand by my prediction of Cavs in 4.

We are going to beat them out of existence as a franchise tonight.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

I can already tell people are going to get upset over this post without reading close to its entirety, so if you're going to read nothing else, read the last paragraph, because I've gotten to the point where I find this whole verbal fight annoying and destructive, and all the following walls of text basically lead up to that.

Or what man? The fuck are you going to do about it?

What are you implying, you want to meet up and fight because I called you out (and not even directly) over an inaccurate prediction you made, which I only did because you were so hostile in your response to me? Jesus.

You're the fucking worst with this shit.. You come on the site and laugh after the Cavs take a loss? Did you not read how many people have a problem with what you and others did?

Where was I laughing that the Cavs lost?! I was laughing at the fact that I was met with hostility for suggesting that we wouldn't sweep and that Lowry wasn't garbage based off a handful of playoff games (in which only his shooting was off, since he was contributing heavily in all other facers), which pale in comparison to the extensive sample size of all the other games he's logged. And now he's shooting MUCH better. Are you trying to say that I ENJOY the Cavs losing? Look at every other one of my game day posts, both that day and today. I was beyond upset, and I got drunk as shit that night in the classic manner of trying to subdue the pain with alcohol. But you're able to dissect how I feel based off an emoji? I know how I feel, so I don't need you telling me anything about me.

Tons of people blasted you and are still blasting you. And it wasn't over your prediction.

Toronto is a good team and they've been finding their way recently, especially Lowry. I'm definitely not expecting a sweep.

Pretty accurate statement I made before the series.​

We'll sweep the Raptors and Kyle Lowry is garbage. Both Hawks and Pistons will have been tougher matchups.

I mean, I agree, but... we just watched 7 games of hot garbage. We really think those guys can win a game against us? Cuz I don't.

Not turning out that way in this series in the slightest. That's fine. I make tons of wrong assumptions and predictions, as does everyone else.​

Folks are smoking crack if they think the CRaptors have a shot against the Cavs

Guess I've been smoking too much crack... I guess you could get into specifics and technicals and what not and say the Raptors didn't have a shot simply because we'll still most likely end up winning this series, but based on all your previous posts, it was pretty evident you were in strong support of the idea that the Cavs would sweep. Taking it in 6-7 games doesn't imply that this was as easy as you made it sound, especially since nobody in the game thread suggested in the slightest that the Raptors would win. 6 games or more is a pretty competitive series.​

I'm sorry...based on what? The Raptors won 56 games in the RS and while they've been far from world beaters in the playoffs, they've been a lot better as of late, and they still managed to get to this point. The Hawks are arguably around the talent level of the Raptors, but match up far worse with us, as evidenced by our 11 straight victories against their franchise. And Detroit matched up fairly well with us, but we're talking about a team that won a whole 12 less games than the Raptors and was chalk full of inexperienced, young players. I mean it's funny to spew the "Raptors are playoff chokers" talk, but they've looked better than the Hawks and Pistons in my eyes, even in the playoffs alone.

And Lowry is garbage? I guess we'll have to disagree on that. He wasn't shooting well to start the playoffs (partly due to injury) but he's found his stroke as of late, and it's not like he wasn't contributing on defense, facilitating, intangibles, etc, while his shot was off. No matter what, I wouldn't call a guy who posted 21/6.5/5/58% TS in the RS, along with a 6.8 BPM and a +6.78 RPM, garbage. That's a little shortsighted by my view. Even despite his terrible postseason start, he's at a 2.7 BPM and +7.3 On-Off (without taking into account today's game). And in the past 3 games, he's averaging 32 ppg on 58% TS.

Before anyone gets it twisted, I'm not trying to say the Raptors are winning this series. But I don't think it's absolutely inconceivable to expect a mildly competitive 5 game series. Could it go 4, with all of them being blowouts? Sure, I guess. We're significantly more talented, a lot more rested, and who knows when Valanciunas will play. But the Raptors are a better team than people are letting on.

And THIS is the quote that set you off. In fact, you only responded to the first line and you acted as if my "ridiculous" claims didn't deserve anything more. Where was I aggressive? Where was I hostile? Because I defended my "Cavs won't sweep" prediction and tried to back it up with facts? Isn't that what we're supposed to do on here, or is that only when it involves supporting why the Cavs or a Cavs player will achieve the best possible outcome that we hope for? Everything I said in there is looking pretty good so far. In fact, judging by that last paragraph, I actually expected less than the fight the Raptors have given us in this series.​

Hey dumbass... You're not the only person that said Cavs in 5. @jking948 made the case as to why it'd be Cavs in 5 as did a few other posters at the same time you did.

Ah, and now I'm a dumbass. Thanks.

Did you not read the thread?? It was your non-reasoning that was comical, and the "Kyle Lowry" argument that was hilarious.

Non-reasoning?! What? I'm the ONLY one of us two that gave reasons (as shown by the last post by me I put up), and now they're all looking pretty damn accurate. You didn't even respond to my comments, which revolved around the Raptors matching up better with us and Lowry being far from garbage based off of poor shooting in a small sample size of playoff games, while he was still contributing in other areas. All you said was "C'mon... don't be ridiculous. There's absolutely zero need to dissect a pile of dogshit to find out what it ate; it's dog shit.." and "Umm.. yeah, I guess we will," which was a short, snarky response to me saying we'd have to disagree on Lowry being garbage.

All of that was just comical... But coming on the site and laughing at a Cavs loss; yeah man, that's bitchmade.

Except I DIDN'T laugh at the Cavs losing. You got all that from a freaking emoji? What if I took it away? Does that make a giant difference? I was drunk as hell basically the entire night from the second half on, emotions were flying high, and being EXTREMELY upset as I was about the game (disagree with that all you want), I decided to bring up that exchange before the series, in which you sourly dismissed my predictions and my support, saying that the Cavs would clearly sweep and Lowry was garbage. THAT is what I was I saw as a laughing matter; it didn't represent how I felt about the Cavs losing.

Look who's talking...

I'll admit. I shouldn't have resurrected that exchange at all. Like I said, when emotions are flying high (and when you're already drunk of course), you get more combative. Maybe I do have some growing up to do in that regard. I'll take pride in the fact that I can admit the times where I went wrong though, and I'm not saying I'm perfect.

Look here man.. I've not gone off-topic, this is the game thread. You're laughing at the end of a Cavs loss made more than just me pissed off. If you think that's just confined to this thread, you'd be wrong.

Like I said, that's not what happened and you read way too much from a single emoji, but whatever, if you're set on that, I'm not going to waste my breath here because in the end, it doesn't affect me at all and it's not worth this tiresome back-and-forth, which never leads anywhere.

This is not the general board of RealGM, and pussies who root against the Cavaliers so their silly-ass predictions come true typically get exposed. Notice the difference between how you acted after the loss and how others who also said Cavs in 5 behaved?

What about all my other posts? Oh, but those don't matter, right? Only the one that didn't represent how I felt towards the actual game, but rather the poster who combatted me over a prediction that still had the Cavs winning in 5 games (ironically, with the way this series has gone, I was actually too optimistic) and the support for why I felt that way. And now you're saying I root against the Cavs? Well what the hell would I be doing on here in these past 2+ years then? Again, you don't know me.

You want folks to "grow up" but I'm not sure if you really understand how pathetic it is to see someone post, once the game is out of reach, just how excited they are to see the opposing team win -- just because they wanted to be right so badly.

Not even close, but whatever. I clearly was rooting for the Cavs to lose... I would more than happily eat crow if it meant the Cavs sweeping. And I've done it before, if you check my post history, when it comes to me doubting the Cavs or Cavs players achieving something.

It wasn't about that at all. I was livid over the Cavs losing, something every single other post in that thread would show, but I was also still mad about the fact that I was met with hostility over what I said when much of it turned out to be right. You want to know what kind of laughter that emoji really represents? Think of Breaking Bad when Walt was hysterical after finding out that Skylar gave away all his money. Maybe not to that degree, but in that tense period of time, I definitely found it easier to "laugh" (and I use quotes because I obviously wasn't even close to laughing in real life) at something, and in this case, I can say I was trying to draw in the people who dismissed my prediction and surrounding argument before the series.

Hell, I don't think he Cavs would sweep OKC or the Warriors, but I'd be ecstatic if they did... I wouldn't come on here laughing about taking an L.

And neither would I, because this comparison you're trying to make is based off a false assumption.

And besides, I think many of us pinned you as an anti-fan some time ago.

You got called out in the NBA Playoffs thread last week for sucking Warriors dick, more than one poster remarked that you kept posting these odd pro-Warriors comments; I personally called you out about talking up Steph Curry so tough like you were fucking dating him a few weeks back

Because I try to remain objective? Because I don't act as if Curry isn't probably the second best player in the league, just because he's on a team that WE (that's right I said WE and I don't care if you believe me or not) hate with a passion? Yeah, what he does on the court is crazy to me and while I'm a Cavs fan, I'm also an NBA fan, and I don't have a problem saying that he's a great player and responding to posters who talk him down to ridiculous levels, even though I've said TIME and TIME again that LeBron, a Cavs player, is the best in the league. That's NOT "sucking Warrior dick." And neither is saying it's immature to wish injury on a guy based off what's essentially just a game. I wasn't offended or angered nearly enough to reach that point, yet you and others were. Here, in this hive mind, I look like the bad guy but you better believe it would be looked at much differently everywhere else where people are more level headed (and that behavior obviously isn't exclusive to RCF; all forums that cater to specific groups see that happen). Furthermore, I wanted to beat the Warriors at full health and I didn't feel that Curry individually had done or said enough to make me cheer for him being potentially seriously injured. I mean at least I'd understand if this were Draymond we were talking about.

and the folks in the Kyrie thread remember your bullshit comments about how all the other guards in the East were better than he is..

You can bring up those quotes if you want, because I clearly was making a different argument than you pretend to remember. I said that Lowry and Wall deserved the All Star votes more than Kyrie because at that point, he had played barely any games and he was struggling in them, too. It's not bullshit. It's something most other people agree with. All Star votes go to players based on their play that season (any NBA analyst/spokesperson/whatever will probably tell you the same thing), and Lowry and Wall had provided more this year up to that time to warrant the votes. I think you know where I'm coming from, but you're just trying to shed me in the worst light possible and act as if I was saying something else. What about when I tried to get the everyone to vote for Kyrie on social media anyways? Are you just going to look over that? Like I said, I was looking at it objectively and deep down I felt (as did basically everyone outside of Cavs fans and even a ton of posters on here) that Lowry and Wall were much more deserving, even though I was voting for Kyrie simply because I'll always support the Cavs, whether they deserve it or not. You had your criteria, which I thought was strange, and you disagreed with mine, but don't bring up this debate to try to demonstrate that I root against Kyrie and the Cavs, because that's not even the slightest bit true.

Raptors win one game, and you come out the woodwork?

Fuck outta here man... Who are you trying to fool?

2 games now, and I stand by the argument I made. In fact, I never abandoned it. I've been here the whole time, so I don't understand what made you think otherwise. Am I happy the Raptors have taken 2 games off of us? Not at all. But of course I wasn't going to let the exchange we had before the series go, considering how you chose to respond to me.



I'm not trying to fool anyone. Look. Everyone's obviously pissed about what's happening in this series, because maybe contrary to what you believe, I and almost everyone else on this site want Cleveland to win its first title in 50+ years so fucking badly. Up until a couple days ago, we'd pretty much patched up our interesting - to say the least - history, and here it is rearing its ugly head once again (and I'll admit some fault in that). It's not surprising at all to see that happen when emotions are flying high like this, but now that I've had time to think this over and collect myself, I'm willing to forgive and forget, rather than contributing to this whole place turning against each other when really we're all rooting for the same common goal. Whether you are or not, it's whatever, but like I said the back-and-forth is exhausting and just pointless, because funny enough, I do like you and most of the other people here as posters, even though we get in constant fights.

 

[gourimoko]

Can't believe you wrote this bullshit after the loss tonight... Pathetic.

Will respond in the morning.

 

[CLEistheCITY]

I can already tell people are going to get upset over this post without reading close to its entirety, so if you're going to read nothing else, read the last paragraph, because I've gotten to the point where I find this whole verbal fight annoying and destructive, and all the following walls of text basically lead up to that.


What are you implying, you want to meet up and fight because I called you out (and not even directly) over an inaccurate prediction you made, which I only did because you were so hostile in your response to me? Jesus.


Where was I laughing that the Cavs lost?! I was laughing at the fact that I was met with hostility for suggesting that we wouldn't sweep and that Lowry wasn't garbage based off a handful of playoff games (in which only his shooting was off, since he was contributing heavily in all other facers), which pale in comparison to the extensive sample size of all the other games he's logged. And now he's shooting MUCH better. Are you trying to say that I ENJOY the Cavs losing? Look at every other one of my game day posts, both that day and today. I was beyond upset, and I got drunk as shit that night in the classic manner of trying to subdue the pain with alcohol. But you're able to dissect how I feel based off an emoji? I know how I feel, so I don't need you telling me anything about me.

Pretty accurate statement I made before the series.​

Not turning out that way in this series in the slightest. That's fine. I make tons of wrong assumptions and predictions, as does everyone else.​

Guess I've been smoking too much crack... I guess you could get into specifics and technicals and what not and say the Raptors didn't have a shot simply because we'll still most likely end up winning this series, but based on all your previous posts, it was pretty evident you were in strong support of the idea that the Cavs would sweep. Taking it in 6-7 games doesn't imply that this was as easy as you made it sound, especially since nobody in the game thread suggested in the slightest that the Raptors would win. 6 games or more is a pretty competitive series.​

And THIS is the quote that set you off. In fact, you only responded to the first line and you acted as if my "ridiculous" claims didn't deserve anything more. Where was I aggressive? Where was I hostile? Because I defended my "Cavs won't sweep" prediction and tried to back it up with facts? Isn't that what we're supposed to do on here, or is that only when it involves supporting why the Cavs or a Cavs player will achieve the best possible outcome that we hope for? Everything I said in there is looking pretty good so far. In fact, judging by that last paragraph, I actually expected less than the fight the Raptors have given us in this series.​

Ah, and now I'm a dumbass. Thanks.


Non-reasoning?! What? I'm the ONLY one of us two that gave reasons (as shown by the last post by me I put up), and now they're all looking pretty damn accurate. You didn't even respond to my comments, which revolved around the Raptors matching up better with us and Lowry being far from garbage based off of poor shooting in a small sample size of playoff games, while he was still contributing in other areas. All you said was "C'mon... don't be ridiculous. There's absolutely zero need to dissect a pile of dogshit to find out what it ate; it's dog shit.." and "Umm.. yeah, I guess we will," which was a short, snarky response to me saying we'd have to disagree on Lowry being garbage.


Except I DIDN'T laugh at the Cavs losing. You got all that from a freaking emoji? What if I took it away? Does that make a giant difference? I was drunk as hell basically the entire night from the second half on, emotions were flying high, and being EXTREMELY upset as I was about the game (disagree with that all you want), I decided to bring up that exchange before the series, in which you sourly dismissed my predictions and my support, saying that the Cavs would clearly sweep and Lowry was garbage. THAT is what I was I saw as a laughing matter; it didn't represent how I felt about the Cavs losing.


I'll admit. I shouldn't have resurrected that exchange at all. Like I said, when emotions are flying high (and when you're already drunk of course), you get more combative. Maybe I do have some growing up to do in that regard. I'll take pride in the fact that I can admit the times where I went wrong though, and I'm not saying I'm perfect.


Like I said, that's not what happened and you read way too much from a single emoji, but whatever, if you're set on that, I'm not going to waste my breath here because in the end, it doesn't affect me at all and it's not worth this tiresome back-and-forth, which never leads anywhere.


What about all my other posts? Oh, but those don't matter, right? Only the one that didn't represent how I felt towards the actual game, but rather the poster who combatted me over a prediction that still had the Cavs winning in 5 games (ironically, with the way this series has gone, I was actually too optimistic) and the support for why I felt that way. And now you're saying I root against the Cavs? Well what the hell would I be doing on here in these past 2+ years then? Again, you don't know me.


Not even close, but whatever. I clearly was rooting for the Cavs to lose... I would more than happily eat crow if it meant the Cavs sweeping. And I've done it before, if you check my post history, when it comes to me doubting the Cavs or Cavs players achieving something.

It wasn't about that at all. I was livid over the Cavs losing, something every single other post in that thread would show, but I was also still mad about the fact that I was met with hostility over what I said when much of it turned out to be right. You want to know what kind of laughter that emoji really represents? Think of Breaking Bad when Walt was hysterical after finding out that Skylar gave away all his money. Maybe not to that degree, but in that tense period of time, I definitely found it easier to "laugh" (and I use quotes because I obviously wasn't even close to laughing in real life) at something, and in this case, I can say I was trying to draw in the people who dismissed my prediction and surrounding argument before the series.


And neither would I, because this comparison you're trying to make is based off a false assumption.


Because I try to remain objective? Because I don't act as if Curry isn't probably the second best player in the league, just because he's on a team that WE (that's right I said WE and I don't care if you believe me or not) hate with a passion? Yeah, what he does on the court is crazy to me and while I'm a Cavs fan, I'm also an NBA fan, and I don't have a problem saying that he's a great player and responding to posters who talk him down to ridiculous levels, even though I've said TIME and TIME again that LeBron, a Cavs player, is the best in the league. That's NOT "sucking Warrior dick." And neither is saying it's immature to wish injury on a guy based off what's essentially just a game. I wasn't offended or angered nearly enough to reach that point, yet you and others were. Here, in this hive mind, I look like the bad guy but you better believe it would be looked at much differently everywhere else where people are more level headed (and that behavior obviously isn't exclusive to RCF; all forums that cater to specific groups see that happen). Furthermore, I wanted to beat the Warriors at full health and I didn't feel that Curry individually had done or said enough to make me cheer for him being potentially seriously injured. I mean at least I'd understand if this were Draymond we were talking about.


You can bring up those quotes if you want, because I clearly was making a different argument than you pretend to remember. I said that Lowry and Wall deserved the All Star votes more than Kyrie because at that point, he had played barely any games and he was struggling in them, too. It's not bullshit. It's something most other people agree with. All Star votes go to players based on their play that season (any NBA analyst/spokesperson/whatever will probably tell you the same thing), and Lowry and Wall had provided more this year up to that time to warrant the votes. I think you know where I'm coming from, but you're just trying to shed me in the worst light possible and act as if I was saying something else. What about when I tried to get the everyone to vote for Kyrie on social media anyways? Are you just going to look over that? Like I said, I was looking at it objectively and deep down I felt (as did basically everyone outside of Cavs fans and even a ton of posters on here) that Lowry and Wall were much more deserving, even though I was voting for Kyrie simply because I'll always support the Cavs, whether they deserve it or not. You had your criteria, which I thought was strange, and you disagreed with mine, but don't bring up this debate to try to demonstrate that I root against Kyrie and the Cavs, because that's not even the slightest bit true.


2 games now, and I stand by the argument I made. In fact, I never abandoned it. I've been here the whole time, so I don't understand what made you think otherwise. Am I happy the Raptors have taken 2 games off of us? Not at all. But of course I wasn't going to let the exchange we had before the series go, considering how you chose to respond to me.



I'm not trying to fool anyone. Look. Everyone's obviously pissed about what's happening in this series, because maybe contrary to what you believe, I and almost everyone else on this site want Cleveland to win its first title in 50+ years so fucking badly. Up until a couple days ago, we'd pretty much patched up our interesting - to say the least - history, and here it is rearing its ugly head once again (and I'll admit some fault in that). It's not surprising at all to see that happen when emotions are flying high like this, but now that I've had time to think this over and collect myself, I'm willing to forgive and forget, rather than contributing to this whole place turning against each other when really we're all rooting for the same common goal. Whether you are or not, it's whatever, but like I said the back-and-forth is exhausting and just pointless, because funny enough, I do like you and most of the other people here as posters, even though we get in constant fights.

Tl;dr.

This is fucking stupid. The first thing on your mind after a shitty loss is this argument? Grow the fuck up.

 

[godfather]

@All4One1ForAll I'm only teasing. Don't worry about it man. Emotions run high after games. I don't think @gourimoko has a serious problem, he definitely wasn't challenging you to a fight man.

This will all be water under the bridge when we beat the Raptors.