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Encouraging? Garland and Sexton both showed improvements in some key areas.

Guys with a future here? Probably Garland, Sexton, and Allen. Maybe Okoro. Probably not anyone else.

Goodbye? Realistically, anyone except Love could be gone this off-season and I wouldn't really bat an eye.
 
Most disappointing player - Andre Drummond. Sub .500 shooter from near the rim.

Most disappointing player who never played - KPJ. Sad!

Most disappointing new arrival - Damyean Dotson. A totally forgettable season.

M*A*S*H - Love and Nance.

Done - Delly. He shoots about as well as Barkley swings a golf club.

Coach of the Year - @Comeback kid.

Wait, he was actually on the team? - Thon Maker.

Most regressed player - Cedi.

Best new arrival - Jarrett Allen.

Stepped Up - Dean Wade.

Rookie of the year, healthiest player, best defensive player, strong finisher award - Isaac Okoro. I’m really high on this kid.

Most improved player - Darius Garland.

MVP - Collin Sexton.
Great selections - I would only change the "Most Disappointing" award. That has to be Porter and nobody else is close. KPJ was supposed to be the most talented of the young guns and a future cornerstone that we gave up four 2nd round picks to acquire. Drummond was a lottery ticket we got for nothing. Cedi is a limited player who was going to be replaced at some point as the team approached playoff caliber.

The Cavs have big plans for Porter in Year 2. He has the best chance to be the team’s foundational piece and sources say he is at the top of the Cleveland’s young player hierarchy, considered untouchable, to the point where teams won’t even ask about him in trades anymore. - Fedor

Coaches, teammates and members of the front office rave about [Kevin] Porter. His talent, upside and growth as a rookie played the biggest role in Jordan Clarkson’s December departure, as the Cavs were hoping to create a path to more playing time. Porter’s viewed as the most promising of all the young pieces…Fedor

If we get him to reach his potential (he can) be the cornerstone of an organization. His skill set is what the NBA is. - Bickerstaff


The decision to cut this 20-year-old loose may haunt this organization for a long, long time. Or he could be the NBA's Josh Gordon and tease with potential greatness for years before the last team finally gives up on him.
 
The other big disappointment was Love, although not nearly to the extent of KPJ.

Third would be Windler, a young first round pick who the organization was excited to see emerge this year.

He’s a dead-eye, so you’re gonna have to go over screens. You can’t leave him. But the biggest thing I’m excited for is his IQ actually. In terms of spatial awareness on the court, knowing when to cut, knowing when to stay, his notice for the ball, I think we’re going to have pretty high IQ basketball players on the court this year….I’m excited for him. I think it’s gonna be a heck of an asset for us. - Larry Nance Jr

The intangibles I think that he does every single night, he makes your team better. All the little things that coaches preach and beg for guys to do, he does them instinctually. - JBB

One member of the front office compared him to Utah’s Joe Ingles. - Fedor

I still feel like he has quite a bit of ways to go -- in the best way possible. He knows how to get to the rim, so the next step is finishing, and I feel like once he gets to that point, he’s going to be deadly on the inside and outside. - Jarrett Allen, Feb 2021


On second thought I might put Windler as the second biggest disappointment behind KPJ. By the time the Cavs are ready to go anywhere in the playoffs Love will be done so he's really a misfit on this roster. If he had been healthy this year it would have hurt the Cavs' lottery position and taken developmental time away from Dean Wade, who averaged 19.2 minutes this year after 5.9 his rookie season. I doubt that Wade will be in the rotation when the Cavs are ready to contend (I'm pretty sure he won't), but it's nice that he got to play about 1,200 minutes this season, including 19 starts, so he knows what he needs to work on in the off-season to develop into a player with a chance for a ten-year career.

I would like to see what Windler can do if he could stay healthy for 70-80 games. I love his passing and rebounding. They rave about his intelligence and intangibles. If he could stay healthy and get more consistent on his 3-point shooting he could be a valuable contributor on the wing.
 
The most positive developments were the acquistions of Allen and Hartenstein. We went into the season with Drummond and McGee as the only big men and both were on the final year of their contracts. Drummond was grossly overpaid and not a good fit with this young roster. Now with Allen and Hartenstein we're set in the middle for years assuming they extend Allen.

Another big positive was knowing we didn't blow another top draft pick and that Okoro will be one of the cornerstones going forward.

Garland's improvement rounds out the three most positive developments.

The injuries to Love and Nance may prove to be beneficial in the long run if it results in a top five pick.
 
Great selections - I would only change the "Most Disappointing" award. That has to be Porter and nobody else is close. KPJ was supposed to be the most talented of the young guns and a future cornerstone that we gave up four 2nd round picks to acquire. Drummond was a lottery ticket we got for nothing. Cedi is a limited player who was going to be replaced at some point as the team approached playoff caliber.

The Cavs have big plans for Porter in Year 2. He has the best chance to be the team’s foundational piece and sources say he is at the top of the Cleveland’s young player hierarchy, considered untouchable, to the point where teams won’t even ask about him in trades anymore. - Fedor

Coaches, teammates and members of the front office rave about [Kevin] Porter. His talent, upside and growth as a rookie played the biggest role in Jordan Clarkson’s December departure, as the Cavs were hoping to create a path to more playing time. Porter’s viewed as the most promising of all the young pieces…Fedor

If we get him to reach his potential (he can) be the cornerstone of an organization. His skill set is what the NBA is. - Bickerstaff


The decision to cut this 20-year-old loose may haunt this organization for a long, long time. Or he could be the NBA's Josh Gordon and tease with potential greatness for years before the last team finally gives up on him.


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I just love how the team picked up on the Miami Heat idea of having one Udonis Haslem old head... and tripled it every year. Why have one griot when a quarter of your roster can be old shaman spinning historic yarns?

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It's like if Arrested Development said: "Screw it, we need more 80 year old dudes in this rap group."
 
Most Encouraging Development: Garland in general (agreed). Garland's play with Allen in particular.

Most Surprising Development: The team being so injury depleted that someone named Jeremiah Martin got significant minutes down the stretch.

Guys that I think have a future here: Stevens & Wade, I guess? Honestly, I think the team is Okoro, Garland, Allen, Nance and Sexton. (and whoever they draft). Everyone else is either deadweight (Cedi, Love) or longshots (Stevens, Thomas).

Goodbye: Delly, AV, Martin, possibly Dotson, Cedi, Love and Prince.

Most disappointing: KPjr situation is the only correct answer.

Best case scenario offseason: Cavs get the #1 pick and Cade Cunningham, are able to find a solid veteran PG in free agency or trade, add some solid shooting off the bench and Okoro and Garland make legit big leaps. (as well as the Cavs having good injury luck next year)

Worst case scenario offseason: Dan fires Koby, puts his son in as President of basketball OPS, they hire some BS GM, Cavs get the #7 or #8 pick and Scottie Barnes, end up bringing back some of the trash heap PG's we had at the end of the year, bank on Windler being healthy and Cedi not being Cedi off the bench and Okoro's jumper doesn't get any better and JBB is fired by quarter point of season.
 
I just love how the team picked up on the Miami Heat idea of having one Udonis Haslem old head... and tripled it every year. Why have one griot when a quarter of your roster can be old shaman spinning historic yarns?

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It's like if Arrested Development said: "Screw it, we need more 80 year old dudes in this rap group."
The Heat w/Haslem is exactly what I wanted for TT.
Having know-nothing youngsters at every spot on the bench kills your chances of developing any of the other know-nothing youngsters.
 
The Heat w/Haslem is exactly what I wanted for TT.
Having know-nothing youngsters at every spot on the bench kills your chances of developing any of the other know-nothing youngsters.

I liked Delly/Love as the veteran bridge. Delly is the true bench griot, and Love theoretically still playing a productive Paul Milsap role. I just didn't expect what happened to Love at all. When he grabbed Andy as tank commander it seemed like an overkill.

Anyways, awards - everyone gets a trophy and the pizza party has free refills. Let's move on to the tee ball season for these losers.
 
Most Encouraging Development: Garland in general (agreed). Garland's play with Allen in particular.

Most Surprising Development: The team being so injury depleted that someone named Jeremiah Martin got significant minutes down the stretch.

Guys that I think have a future here: Stevens & Wade, I guess? Honestly, I think the team is Okoro, Garland, Allen, Nance and Sexton. (and whoever they draft). Everyone else is either deadweight (Cedi, Love) or longshots (Stevens, Thomas).

Goodbye: Delly, AV, Martin, possibly Dotson, Cedi, Love and Prince.

Most disappointing: KPjr situation is the only correct answer.

Best case scenario offseason: Cavs get the #1 pick and Cade Cunningham, are able to find a solid veteran PG in free agency or trade, add some solid shooting off the bench and Okoro and Garland make legit big leaps. (as well as the Cavs having good injury luck next year)

Worst case scenario offseason: Dan fires Koby, puts his son in as President of basketball OPS, they hire some BS GM, Cavs get the #7 or #8 pick and Scottie Barnes, end up bringing back some of the trash heap PG's we had at the end of the year, bank on Windler being healthy and Cedi not being Cedi off the bench and Okoro's jumper doesn't get any better and JBB is fired by quarter point of season.
lol they could do a hell of a lot worse than drafting a 6'9 pg
 
lol they could do a hell of a lot worse than drafting a 6'9 pg
Barnes isn't bad, it's more the rest of the stuff. Cavs can't fall further than 8 and that's about where Barnes is.

edited to add: one thing I didn't contemplate: Gilbert demanding we trade the pick for veteran help now.. like we send Love and the pick for Wall or something stupid. And it's Gilbert, so you never know.
 
Most promising... Garland, Sexton, Okoro, and Allen (no surprises here)

Most surprising - Hartenstein

Biggest bummer....KPj

Biggest loser... Drummond...oh wait I mean the Cavs spending so much on him and Love ...

What the heck man? - Love and the endless injuries from everyone this year

Other bummer.... Feels like we have zero offensive plays most of the time and no plays, but heading more different starting lineups than games () perhaps that's just reality.

Most frustrating... Love, Cedi, Bynum, Dotson, endless amount of G league players in the rotation.

There's probably more. But seems we have some potential potential.
 
Barnes isn't bad, it's more the rest of the stuff. Cavs can't fall further than 8 and that's about where Barnes is.

edited to add: one thing I didn't contemplate: Gilbert demanding we trade the pick for veteran help now.. like we send Love and the pick for Wall or something stupid. And it's Gilbert, so you never know.
who is in you're top 7 that you have somebody as polarizing as Barnes at 8th though?
I think right now he is probably looking at 8 as his floor and 3 as his ceiling.
I expected most of the last month that he was going 5 or 6 with only a couple scenarios where
he is passed on at 6 by a team with a loaded roster that needs a certain position player more.
A lot of these same draft sites have him listed as a pf but he played pg for Florida State.
I think his motor playmaking and surprising ball control on the move for a big kid makes him really intriguing and he is easily a top 5 defender in the class.
I have him going to the Cavs in the event that Cunningham and Mobley are both gone even if it means they trade down a spot or 2 if they think they can still draft him.
The concerns about not being a floor stretcher are not reason to pass up a freak like this imo.
 

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