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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 39.0%

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 17.1%

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.3%

  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 25 20.3%
  • Total voters
    123
CavsFaninNJ said:
Seeing AD makes me worry about Mobley a little more. AD came into the league as a defensive star but only scored 16 in college. His offense his rookie year was ok, but he really took off in year 3, and go to the point where he was a serious offensive threat.

But in the playoffs and in big moments, he still reverts back to his nature as a guy who doesn't score much or want to be that guy. I could see the same happening to Mobley. It's hard to not be a scorer by nature and develop into an offensive dog.

And the way the rest of the Cavs look - someone above the height of 6'2" has to be able to go and get a bucket when you need it.
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Seeing AD in the playoffs worries you? He has been quite productive in the playoffs. He doesn't score much in the playoffs? He has only had 3 playoff series where he averaged less then 25 PPG. He carried the Lakers through the playoffs in the bubble. He just came off a series where yes Lakers got swept. But Davis averaged 26.8 PPG. He wasn't the reason Lakers got swept. No he didn't underperform. I don't know what Davis you have watched in the playoffs. But more often then not he has not disappointed in big moments.
 
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Yea I wouldn’t compare AD to Mobley really in any capacity in terms of game. Tho both have a very slow release and maybe Mobley can learn to be an effective shooter with that same kinda release— (tho I doubt it)—

But until Mobley fills out that frame in the same way then the discussion is just apples to oranges.
 
CavsFaninNJ said:
Seeing AD makes me worry about Mobley a little more. AD came into the league as a defensive star but only scored 16 in college. His offense his rookie year was ok, but he really took off in year 3, and go to the point where he was a serious offensive threat.

But in the playoffs and in big moments, he still reverts back to his nature as a guy who doesn't score much or want to be that guy. I could see the same happening to Mobley. It's hard to not be a scorer by nature and develop into an offensive dog.

And the way the rest of the Cavs look - someone above the height of 6'2" has to be able to go and get a bucket when you need it.
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It’s a legitimate concern, yes.

It’s why I believe one of Garland/Mitchell will be dealt for wing help. Sooner than later.
 
CavsFaninNJ said:
Seeing AD makes me worry about Mobley a little more. AD came into the league as a defensive star but only scored 16 in college. His offense his rookie year was ok, but he really took off in year 3, and go to the point where he was a serious offensive threat.

But in the playoffs and in big moments, he still reverts back to his nature as a guy who doesn't score much or want to be that guy. I could see the same happening to Mobley. It's hard to not be a scorer by nature and develop into an offensive dog.

And the way the rest of the Cavs look - someone above the height of 6'2" has to be able to go and get a bucket when you need it.
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For a big it’s actually pretty damn good, especially when you consider how loaded that team was. They had six guys get drafted that year alone, including four in the 1st and the #2 pick. They won the national title and he won every national player of the year award and lead them in scoring.

When AD entered the draft he was generally considered one of if not the best prospects since LeBron. No one should mistake Mobley for AD or expect his trajectory to be similar. AD is likely the unquestioned #1 pick in every draft since he was drafted, save this year. Mobley obviously was not that kind of prospect out of college.
 
pinoycavsfan said:
If Mobley ends up being like AD(offensively and defensively and not injury prone), Cavs won that lottery.
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I am not seeing that potential thus far. Not even close. Its important we remain objective with comparisons. AD was, and still is, a far better player on both ends.
 
CavsFaninNJ said:
Seeing AD makes me worry about Mobley a little more. AD came into the league as a defensive star but only scored 16 in college. His offense his rookie year was ok, but he really took off in year 3, and go to the point where he was a serious offensive threat.

But in the playoffs and in big moments, he still reverts back to his nature as a guy who doesn't score much or want to be that guy. I could see the same happening to Mobley. It's hard to not be a scorer by nature and develop into an offensive dog.

And the way the rest of the Cavs look - someone above the height of 6'2" has to be able to go and get a bucket when you need it.
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We’d be lucky if Mobley ends up being as good as AD. A player as good as AD but less injury prone would be a fantastic outcome.

I’m not sure how AD has ended up underrated but it’s happening.
 
cavsfever said:
We’d be lucky if Mobley ends up being as good as AD. A player as good as AD but less injury prone would be a fantastic outcome.

I’m not sure how AD has ended up underrated but it’s happening.
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It's all due to his injuries. He averaged 26 pts, 12.5 reb, 2 ast, 2 blk, 1 stl. Those numbers would pretty easily make him All-NBA over Randle and Sabonis if he plays 70 games instead of 56. He's been a little inconsistent in the playoffs, but the fact he's not always available is a serious issue.
 
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