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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 39.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 17.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.3%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 25 20.3%

  • Total voters
    123
So far this season, Mobley has a -20.6 On-Off. We are 1.4 points per 100 possessions better on offense with him off the floor, and we’re 19.2 points per 100 possessions better on defense with him off the floor.

We’re almost a quarter of the way through the season now. That should not be happening. A big part of it is terrible opponent shooting luck that works against him. Opponents are shooting 25.8% from three when Mobley is off the floor. And 40.9% from three when Mobley is on the floor. But even if you substituted those shooting percentages with the Cavs’ average opponent 3P% - 36.1% - the Cavs would still be posting a 104.8 DRTG with Mobley off the floor and a 107.4 DRTG with him on the floor. Math doesn’t work out quite that way because of more offensive rebounds and second chance points after more missed threes, but that would actually only expand that gap in DRTG and make Mobley’s on-off look worse.

Something needs to be fixed with the lineups. Being worse on offense with Mobley in the game (versus a guy like Love or Wade at the floor) makes sense and is acceptable for now but we shouldn’t be significantly worse on defense with Mobley in the game versus out of it. We even have a not very good 113.3 DRTG with both Mobley and Allen in. Again, that shouldn’t be happening with two rim protectors on the floor shutting off the paint.

I wonder what the numbers would look like without the games Allen missed where Mobley was playing a lot of minutes at C. No secret he’s not really ready to do that and may never be. Minnesota and Milwaukee were probably the two worst games this year for Allen to miss based on matchups.

Minnesota was 12-24 for 50% from 3. Milwaukee was 16-39 for 41%.

Lineups with Mobley & Allen in are puzzling, but could be getting tanked by those early season starting lineups with LeVert and Okoro that played a lot of minutes and hemorrhaged points.
 
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For what it's worth, I was pleased to see his aggression against the Bucks. But the damn ball wouldn't go in the hoop. All time unluck. I hope he keeps it up and that handle continues to tighten.
 
Good experience for him to see Giannis destroy a team up close. Tighten that handle and stack on the muscle
 
Good experience for him to see Giannis destroy a team up close. Tighten that handle and stack on the muscle
Yep. It ought to be a good learning experience to see the force with which Giannis plays. Mobley can’t do what he can do, but he can learn from his approach to the game.
 
I'd like to see him get some chances with the second unit to work on his offensive game. I think he needs to get minutes where he gets more responsibility and moves up the hierarchy so he is the primary or secondary scoring option.

I'm not sure how much his offensive game develops being 3rd or 4th option behind two ball dominate guards. He might get easy looks around the basket but I'm not sure that gives him the proper opportunities to work on his game.
 
If I were a Mod I'd ban every Mobley hater in this forum. But that's just me. I can block or scroll by them.

He is what he is. Some people over-rate him, some people trash him.

I like who he is at this point in his development. I think all the over-reactive opinions of Mobley are hilarious and mostly ill-informed.
 
If I were a Mod I'd ban every Mobley hater in this forum. But that's just me. I can block or scroll by them.

He is what he is. Some people over-rate him, some people trash him.

I like who he is at this point in his development. I think all the over-reactive opinions of Mobley are hilarious and mostly ill-informed.


He’s already statistically better then a guy like Ayton who’s been in the league 3 years longer and was the Center on a finals bound team. Hell be fine
 
What happened to the guy's jump shot ? What did they do with him in the summer ?

He concentrates on scoring inside which helps his efficiency at the moment a little, but it clogs the lane for his team.
 
He just isn't very talented with the ball in his hands. He is a nice lob target & an effective rim protector. But time, diet, weightlifting, practice cannot just infuse talent into your DNA as a ballplayer.

" Guys relax, he is 21" responses when he sucks after every game is also irritating as shit. He drops the god damn ball at least 3-4 times a game. But I will remain patient, as I have been instructed to by the forefathers of this board...
 

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