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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 39.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 17.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.3%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 25 20.3%

  • Total voters
    123
Fedor said he worked out for only the Pistons.

Every report I saw this week said he hadn't worked out for Pistons Rockets or Raptors. So unless he worked out with Pistons within the past couple of days Fedor is wrong.
 
Who is force fed in the post anymore tho ?

Give me a little face up action and take the man off the dribble or jab step and pull-up midrange…

Just don’t give me that exclusive 3 point shooting big…

Andre Drummond the whole first half of last season
 
Soooooo...anyone heard from RichieRichPaul about the workout claim?
 
David Aldridge wrote this in The Athletic:

Here’s a veteran NBA GM, one day before the draft.

“The bigs have become a little bit like running backs in the NFL,” he said. “The running backs are still important. The drafting process doesn’t respect them as much. But when you don’t have one, you know you need one.”

We see it every time in the playoffs, when the game doesn’t slow down as much as return to its roots. Good teams with switchable defenses, the mental cauldron of postseason basketball and a half-dozen other things tend to be more impactful than the 3-fest that dominates the regular season. Giannis Antetokounmpo, seeing no experienced rim protectors among the Phoenix Suns, ate in the paint throughout the Finals. And the smaller Suns suffered further by not being able to keep the bigger Bucks off the offensive glass at crucial moments. Having impactful big men still matters. And this year’s draft has a few that project to be quite impactful, starting with USC freshman Evan Mobley....

Eastern Conference Executive 1: Shoots comfortably from the perimeter, very good passer, runs like a gazelle, excellent shot blocker with timing and the ability to not foul.

Eastern Conference Executive 2: I’ve watched a little film on these guys. Cade and Mobley are a tier above, and then there’s Jalen Green next, then after that it’s (Jalen) Suggs....

When I watch (Mobley), that’s what I see as well – Bosh. I see a little more ball skill than Bosh at the same age, but the same fluid movement, the comfort level on the perimeter, the feel for how to move on the perimeter and in transition seems to be very consistent with Bosh. I think there’s a little more ballhandle skill than Bosh at the same period of time. Competes at both ends. Never backed down. A lot of games where he might have been challenged physically, but he didn’t back down; he fought.

Just a question of how much his body can develop. Any team that’s going to be involved with him is going to be on top of that right away. He runs all day, so is he able to keep weight on? Me, personally, I think he’s No. 1 because of what his ceiling could be, as opposed to the other two. Cade, I respect his skill set with his size. But I still think that’s something you can find. Jalen, I respect his athleticism and skill set and motor. But I think that’s something you can find. But Evan, that’s not something that comes along every draft.....

Eastern Conference Executive 3: I’m not saying he’s Tim Duncan or Chris Bosh, but at the same age, he’s got a great awareness on both ends of the floor. He can really pass. He’s really skilled. And he can block shots. When it’s all said and done, he could be the best of the group.

College Assistant Coach 1 (his team played USC): Great kid, great worker. Skilled, basketball pedigree. The only box I would say that I don’t think he checks — he doesn’t check, but it could just be because he’s young — it’s that he’s not a killer. He’s just a good kid. If he can get over that, which he could, that’s the only hole I see right now. He’s a good ballhandler, not a great one. He’s a good scorer, not a great scorer. But he’s so freaking big and skilled and can make other plays, block shots. If I was adding it in my mental computer, I would say he could be an All-Star. He could be Chris Bosh. Or he could be a solid, good player, but not great.

At the end of the day, you’re just judging the output. You’re not judging why the output is the output. You look at his total skill set, he should be getting 20 and 20 every night. So when he plays and he gets 12 and 10 you’ve got to go, ‘hey man, why?’ He’s not an asshole like Kobe. He’s not an aggressive, loud talker like (Kevin) Garnett. That just ain’t his deal. Now, he’s just 18. Could he get nastier? Yeah, he could. … And you can physically get after him a little bit because of his stature. He’s not a wiry, fighter dude.
 
David Aldridge wrote this in The Athletic:

Here’s a veteran NBA GM, one day before the draft.

“The bigs have become a little bit like running backs in the NFL,” he said. “The running backs are still important. The drafting process doesn’t respect them as much. But when you don’t have one, you know you need one.”

We see it every time in the playoffs, when the game doesn’t slow down as much as return to its roots. Good teams with switchable defenses, the mental cauldron of postseason basketball and a half-dozen other things tend to be more impactful than the 3-fest that dominates the regular season. Giannis Antetokounmpo, seeing no experienced rim protectors among the Phoenix Suns, ate in the paint throughout the Finals. And the smaller Suns suffered further by not being able to keep the bigger Bucks off the offensive glass at crucial moments. Having impactful big men still matters. And this year’s draft has a few that project to be quite impactful, starting with USC freshman Evan Mobley....

Eastern Conference Executive 1: Shoots comfortably from the perimeter, very good passer, runs like a gazelle, excellent shot blocker with timing and the ability to not foul.

Eastern Conference Executive 2: I’ve watched a little film on these guys. Cade and Mobley are a tier above, and then there’s Jalen Green next, then after that it’s (Jalen) Suggs....

When I watch (Mobley), that’s what I see as well – Bosh. I see a little more ball skill than Bosh at the same age, but the same fluid movement, the comfort level on the perimeter, the feel for how to move on the perimeter and in transition seems to be very consistent with Bosh. I think there’s a little more ballhandle skill than Bosh at the same period of time. Competes at both ends. Never backed down. A lot of games where he might have been challenged physically, but he didn’t back down; he fought.

Just a question of how much his body can develop. Any team that’s going to be involved with him is going to be on top of that right away. He runs all day, so is he able to keep weight on? Me, personally, I think he’s No. 1 because of what his ceiling could be, as opposed to the other two. Cade, I respect his skill set with his size. But I still think that’s something you can find. Jalen, I respect his athleticism and skill set and motor. But I think that’s something you can find. But Evan, that’s not something that comes along every draft.....

Eastern Conference Executive 3: I’m not saying he’s Tim Duncan or Chris Bosh, but at the same age, he’s got a great awareness on both ends of the floor. He can really pass. He’s really skilled. And he can block shots. When it’s all said and done, he could be the best of the group.

College Assistant Coach 1 (his team played USC): Great kid, great worker. Skilled, basketball pedigree. The only box I would say that I don’t think he checks — he doesn’t check, but it could just be because he’s young — it’s that he’s not a killer. He’s just a good kid. If he can get over that, which he could, that’s the only hole I see right now. He’s a good ballhandler, not a great one. He’s a good scorer, not a great scorer. But he’s so freaking big and skilled and can make other plays, block shots. If I was adding it in my mental computer, I would say he could be an All-Star. He could be Chris Bosh. Or he could be a solid, good player, but not great.

At the end of the day, you’re just judging the output. You’re not judging why the output is the output. You look at his total skill set, he should be getting 20 and 20 every night. So when he plays and he gets 12 and 10 you’ve got to go, ‘hey man, why?’ He’s not an asshole like Kobe. He’s not an aggressive, loud talker like (Kevin) Garnett. That just ain’t his deal. Now, he’s just 18. Could he get nastier? Yeah, he could. … And you can physically get after him a little bit because of his stature. He’s not a wiry, fighter dude.

I bet Timmy would have won like 5 titles if he wasn’t so nice.
 
As a coach's son with his approach to the game, you feel like he will keep adding things to make him better. I also expect with maturity he will add the weight that will make him more physical without doing much damage to his athleticism. He should be fun to watch.
 
@4:22 -Question was asked about the young core in Garland, Sexton, and Okoro… I like the fact Mobley added Allen as part of the young core. He sees calm but he’s excited to play basketball and win games and help this team.

 
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It's probably going to take a few years with him to get to the point where he's contributing on the level of the other top picks. But I think his defense, like Okoro's, is going to help his offense develop because it lets the Cavs keep him on the court even if his scoring lags.

It would be really fucking nice if Windler could stay healthy, because getting some spacing from the 3 would really make a difference in the flow.
 

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