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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 39.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 17.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.3%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 25 20.3%

  • Total voters
    123
Its a sprained elbow, its not even a chronic type injury, some players have played through them with zero time off in playoff situations.

Giannis' hyperextended knee last year was wild. Can't believe how little it seemed to affect him.
 
can we just give him a 10 year max contract right now

I was just thinking after tonights game where he was just coming off an injury but 2-4 from 3, 4 assts, 9 rebs and oh yeah, 4 blocks and probably altered 10 other shots and just a rookie....i was just thinking well we all know where our super max is going and i doubt any on this board complains we max Mobley out....its going to be the biggest no brainer since we won the lottery in 2003 and had to figure who to pick.
 
Mobley is awesome. I wish they ran more stuff through him. That will come I guess. Good stuff happens when it's in his hands.

Really thought without him the ball didn't move enough and it looks great with him
Mobley needs to touch the ball at least once on every offensive possession.
 
He seemed to play with more force on the offensive end I wonder
if that's one of the things he learned watching games during his
injury time.

His game is simply marvelous . And he plays like this after
a 16 game NBA career.

It was cool to see/hear the sheer happiness of his teammates,
coaches and team announcers at this news.
 
Im pretty sure at least 3 of his 4 blocks were kept in bounds, if not corralled by Mobley himself. They should count that shit as a block and a steal.

If Mobley is shutting your water off and rejecting you, he’s not just embarrassing you….he’s ending the offensive possession more times than not.

That is such a valuable skill…I’ve seen guys get 5big thunderous blocks a game and each one got sent into the stands to make a point…and their team still gave up 3-4 baskets on the ensuing OOB plays. Not Mobley. He simply blocks that shit and swipes down immediately to try and keep the ball in play and usually has the control to send it to himself or a close by teammate.

4 blocks in 33M against a big Magic team on the first night back.

That corner 3 is also looking mighty mighty nice for the rookie. He’s already up to 33.3% on the season.
 
I was thinking about this too -- should a player block and recover their own block, or snatch the block, it's a block+rebound.

If a player should block a shot and it's recovered by a teammate, it should be a steal tallied on as well!! It's the same thing as deflecting the ball. But maybe in NBA's case, there's no way to get a steal off a shot attempt so I can see why they don't score it that way.
 
I was thinking about this too -- should a player block and recover their own block, or snatch the block, it's a block+rebound.

If a player should block a shot and it's recovered by a teammate, it should be a steal tallied on as well!! It's the same thing as deflecting the ball. But maybe in NBA's case, there's no way to get a steal off a shot attempt so I can see why they don't score it that way.

Yeah at the most basic level gaining possession is a big deal. A guy whose team gets possession of a high % of his blocks has a real advantage. I'd guess it will be kept track of as the tracking data gets more sophisticated
 
I was thinking about this too -- should a player block and recover their own block, or snatch the block, it's a block+rebound.

If a player should block a shot and it's recovered by a teammate, it should be a steal tallied on as well!! It's the same thing as deflecting the ball. But maybe in NBA's case, there's no way to get a steal off a shot attempt so I can see why they don't score it that way.
Or maybe blocks should be counted only if the block ends up with the team gaining possession.

If some guy demonstratively swats a shot into the fifth row, it may look good on some YouTube highlight reel, but all it does is give the ball back to the other team with the chance to run an out of bounds play.

Which is what makes Mobley so great. He knows he’s physically capable of the huge swat. But he already knows - in the way of all great big men, dating back to Bill Russell - that it’s more important to actually get possession of the ball.
 
Mobley is awesome. I wish they ran more stuff through him. That will come I guess. Good stuff happens when it's in his hands.

Really thought without him the ball didn't move enough and it looks great with him

They actually did run an awful lot through him vs Orlando, which is wild with it being his first game action in 2 weeks. The trust he already has with the team is awesome to see. Clearly there was a point of emphasis to feed him the rock when possessions slowed, cause he got the ball an awful lot on the low and high posts when they pushed and got shut down so they had to go into their normal offense.

Problem was he either got bodied up or made a post move into a double team or traffic, why his shooting numbers at one point were a little ugly.

But in just 15 games he already has created offensive gravity. Noticed that more this past game than the previous ones, he had a lot of off ball defender eyes on him. He had 4 assists, but he probably could have had 8 by my count. He is incredibly smart and gifted as a passer for his age and size. Drop off bounce passes to cutters on the move to the basket between 2 defenders, skip passes from the low post to the opposite corner for wide open looks at 3...those aren't things a 20 year old rookie 7 footer should be doing at this point in the NBA.

Think a big thing the Cavs will have to figure out moving forward, as I fully expect the future offense to revolve around Garland/Mobley high pick and rolls getting them into their sets, is getting their spacing right. They create good spacing for good looks at 3 consistently with their sets, but they do that by collapsing defenses into the paint. With a guy like Mobley who, when he is the focal point of the offense, will run sets from the low to high post they will need to clear the paint out for him so he doesn't make a post move into someone elses man because the set is too tight. Happened a lot vs Orlando.

That comes with getting more respected shooters at the wing spot to pull guys out of the paint and Mobley continuing to show his willingness to kick out to them when they are left (which will 100% never go away).
 
Remember back when people were questioning his offensive skills?

I believe John Henson’s name was mentioned :chuckle:

Whoever compared this man to John Henson has never seen Mobley play...or Henson.

That's up there with comparing white WRs with other white WRs for the laziest of comps. They had to have just looked at their literal bodies and said yep, same guy.
 

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