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But here's the thing and this is a really difficult thing for a lot men to understand, the line is drawn *immediately* when the woman says "no" or "stop" or "that's enough". That's the end of the line. Consent can be revoked or withdrawn by either party at any time for any reason even if consent was given previously.

There's a reason why people who are experienced in these sorts of sexual proclivities often do signed written contracts. Establish the exact limitations up front to avoid any gray area of "oh well we talked about it beforehand and I thought it was ok!" when something goes beyond what one party deems acceptable.

I get that. I also assume you mean to include that protection not just for women, but for men as well. Oddly, no, stop, or whatever is a desirable response in some of these encounters and so they use "safe words" established first and such; but I got ya, the intent is there to have a way to notify. That's the "when consent stops" argument.

Legally, that'll be explored. It's that there's an obvious disturbance in people's reactions to that kind of "sex" in general, but if the courts find all is proper; I don't know how you can punish a guy for, what to me is grotesque, but otherwise legal activity. I don't think MLB wants to be in the business of judging people on their bedroom habits.
 
I get that. I also assume you mean to include that protection not just for women, but for men as well. Oddly, no, stop, or whatever is a desirable response in some of these encounters and so they use "safe words" established first and such; but I got ya, the intent is there to have a way to notify. That's the "when consent stops" argument.

Legally, that'll be explored. It's that there's an obvious disturbance in people's reactions to that kind of "sex" in general, but if the courts find all is proper; I don't know how you can punish a guy for, what to me is grotesque, but otherwise legal activity. I don't think MLB wants to be in the business of judging people on their bedroom habits.

Oh absolutely. If a man withdraws consent, it works the exact same way.

Bauer is being and is going to continue to be judged harshly by the court of public opinion, but that doesn't mean he necessarily committed a crime.

That said... the only thing that can really be done in my opinion is a thorough investigation. Let the experts determine if Bauer ignored his partner's consent in their sexual encounters or not.

If he did, and unfortunately for the accuser it's going to be extremely difficult to determine this beyond the shadow of a doubt, then he should be arrested and punished severely.

If the investigation determines that Bauer never went beyond his partner's consent and this is simply a case of consensual rough sex, he should be allowed to play again by MLB.

We'll see if a major league team wants to deal with the public relations fall out of having Bauer on their roster, but that's an entirely different argument.

I don't have much issue with Bauer being on paid leave until the legal process plays out.
 
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Ironically, the Indians originally let go of Urshela because Erik Gonzalez was who they viewed as the backup SS in the event Lindor would go down to injury.

 
Ironically, the Indians originally let go of Urshela because Erik Gonzalez was who they viewed as the backup SS in the event Lindor would go down to injury.

Looks like the NYY's are poised to get into the free agent or trade SS market..

FWiW.. if the NYY's can land a long term deal for Trevor Story.. he's their kind of guy.. would reunite with LeMachine..

Good for them..
 
Looks like the NYY's are poised to get into the free agent or trade SS market..

FWiW.. if the NYY's can land a long term deal for Trevor Story.. he's their kind of guy.. would reunite with LeMachine..

Good for them..
Both Story and Le Mahieu have had underwhelming seasons in 2021.
 
Justus Sheffield pitching in 10th inning for Mariners tonight is having a miserable season. His ERA is 6.38 over 15 starts while giving up 102 hits across just 79 IP.
 
At the 2016 deadline, we traded Frazier and Sheffield and two RP prospects for Andrew Miller.

At the time, Frazier was a concensus top 50 prospect, playing in AAA at 21 yrs old and ranked between 1st and 3rd as a team prospect. We know what happened to him.

Over shadowed was Sheffield.

At the time of the trade, Sheffield was a 20 yr old concensus top 80 prospect, pitching in A+. (3.59 ERA/3.80 FIP) He was variously ranked between 2nd and 6th as a team prospect.

Sheffield could not make our rotation today and at best would be a left handed Plutko. Five years after the trade, Sheffields career ERA is 5.36 with an FIP of 4.69.

Consider that Jones and Espino are our Frazier and Sheffield today when we talk about untouchables.
 
Just checked in on Phil Maton - doing his thing. However, the "other piece" - Rule 5 eligible Yainer Diaz went NUTS when called up to High A Asheville - hitting 38 hits including 11 homers in 25 games!!

 
Just checked in on Phil Maton - doing his thing. However, the "other piece" - Rule 5 eligible Yainer Diaz went NUTS when called up to High A Asheville - hitting 38 hits including 11 homers in 25 games!!


They wanted Diaz not Maton more in the deal...
 
They wanted Diaz not Maton more in the deal...
Pretty sure Bimbo said he had some of the best exit velocity in the minors but for where he was level wise paired with his age and most is he really sticking behind the plate not sure I’m going to be handwringing this one too much now or in the future because the return was a MLB CFer they seem to really like. Sometimes you give away quality players that will eventually make it.

edit - in Cleveland’s minors not all of baseball minors
 

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