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Favorite player on the Indians, that actually sucked?

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Tony Horton for the old timers. Thought he was going to be a stud. Jeremy Sowers for the younger crowd. No idea why I pulled so hard for him, he's pretty much the opposite of the sort of pitcher I usually like. But alas, Tony flamed out, probably due to health issues, and Jeremy, well, just flat out sucked.
If Horton doesn't flame out though then he probably never goes on to invent P90x.
 
Tom Mastny 2007 playoffs getting Ortiz-Ramirez-Lowell out in bottom of the 10th so we can win game 2 in the 11th in Boston. The highlight of his short career. Met him in Japan during their spring training in Okinawa. Was very nice to me and appreciated an Indians fan who remembered his career highlight. Otherwise, he fucking sucked! LOL!

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Tom Mastny 2007 playoffs getting Ortiz-Ramirez-Lowell out in bottom of the 10th so we can win game 2 in the 11th in Boston. The highlight of his short career. Met him in Japan during their spring training in Okinawa. Was very nice to me and appreciated an Indians fan who remembered his career highlight. Otherwise, he fucking sucked! LOL!

I thought that 2007 team was going to win it all. And watching them lose the ALCS while living in Boston was not so enjoyable.

(Cool memory of Mastny though!)
 
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Mastny getting through the meat of the order was shocking and exciting.

What was also shocking and exciting was the fact that Jhonny Peralta, of all Indians, was somehow selected as the postgame interview. He went full on deer in headlights and got out maybe 6/20 words in English for one of the most amazing interviews @CBBI and I have ever watched.
 
This guy was a straight up asshole but he was a really good closer in Atlanta. Sub 3 ERA for his career, comes to Cleveland at 26 years old to throw a 5.45 ERA with 7 losses in 38 appearances.


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I still remember John Rocker had to pitch in the famous down 14-2 comeback win against the Mariners in extras to give us a chance for the win. He got the Win in that game...had to edit that in because time flies.
 
If Horton doesn't flame out though then he probably never goes on to invent P90x.
Horton's career highlight - crawling back to the dugout after fouling out against an Eephus ball.


Check out the center field wall and the 463 foot sign. I wonder how many home runs went there to die over the decades.
 
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Chico Salmon. Loved the name and the batting stance.

John Lowenstein. Hit exactly .242 three times in four years. He was also funny as hell. He ended up being a broadcaster with the Orioles.

After a hitter broke two bats in the same plate appearance, Lowenstein deadpanned, "You know what they say, you just can't get a good piece of ash anymore."

"They should move 1st base back a foot to avoid all those close plays."

"The secret to keeping winning streaks going is to maximize the victories while at the same time minimizing the defeats."

Lowenstein didn't suck, though. He broke in at age 23 and retired at 38. At 37 he was still good enough to get 307 at-bats. As a part-time player at age 35 with the O's he had an OPS+ of 176 in 384 plate appearances. No kidding, he hit .320/1.017 that year (1982). We should have kept him longer than eight years.

He was always good for an interesting quote.

“At third base I can hear the fans yelling at me when I miss a ball and I can pick out those fans and yell right back at them. In left field, you don’t know who is yelling at you. Let’s face it – it’s impossible to be humble out there.”

“There are so many intangibles in victory. I have always considered myself an intangible asset to a team. Perhaps because the tangible assets of my career are not so impressive."

From the Society for American Baseball Research:

“I don’t believe in fan clubs,” he remarked. “What are they for? Does a player have to have one? I think they are a waste of people’s time. A youngster should be out self-educating himself in other pursuits besides running a fan club.”

"Lowenstein often shared his thoughts and sharp wit on just about any subject. One fan club he showed his support for was the Lowenstein Apathy Club (LAC). Hundreds of letters arrived to the Indians pledging disinterest in his career, some signed with invisible ink. Its members promised to have a day in his honor when the Indians were on the road. Occasionally a banner was unfurled in the upper deck at Municipal Stadium, with “Hey Steiner,” followed by 20 feet of blank white cloth. “There is great solace in not caring,” Lowenstein explained jokingly. “People today are so uptight about everything – war, gasoline, unions – that having complete apathy about something would be welcomed. In a small way, I can bring a moment of peace to my fellow man. Apathy clubs may sweep the nation.”"

"The irony was that Lowenstein was not Jewish. The Municipal Stadium organist would serenade him with “Hava Nagila” when he came to bat, until Lowenstein let the organist know he was actually a Roman Catholic. After that, the theme song for his at-bats was “Jesus Christ Superstar.”"

A few more Steiner quotes I dug up:

“You never know where you are born. You have to take your parents’ word for it.”

“I have endeavored to retain a low profile in baseball. The organization has been more than helpful in that direction.”

And finally this one, which has special relevance to the times we're living in now:

"If you act like you know what you’re doing, you can do anything you want… except neurosurgery."
 
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Surprised there’s no Casey Blake mention. Or was he too “good” to make this thread?
 
For me, probably 50:50 between Brook Jacoby and Glenallen Hill.

Edit: I guess Jacoby wasn't that bad after all....so let's just go with Hill.
 
Mark Lewis was supposed to a great middle infielder. Yea that didn't happen

Drew Pomeranz was the next great starting picture the Indians drafted after CC and Wright
 
Mark Lewis was supposed to a great middle infielder. Yea that didn't happen

Drew Pomeranz was the next great starting picture the Indians drafted after CC and Wright
Drew has actually managed a few nice seasons when he's been healthy. Also, we traded him while he was still a prospect to Colorado, and coming up with the Rockies is no cakewalk for young pitchers.
 
Chad Durbin is probably the worst pitcher the Indians have put on the mound in my lifetime, but I don't recall him having any fans :chuckle:

I think we all loved Jaret Wright at one point, and he turned out to be god awful for us.
 
I used to think he sucked. In hindsight dude was actually pretty solid and could play multiple positions. He also got us Carlos Santana. He’s cool in my book.

Casey Blake was one of those players that everyone thought was a AAAA player at the time he was on the Indians, then he put a couple of good seasons together in a row, and was clearly a quality MLB player. Respect for him always seemed to trail his production. I include myself in the group that didn't grant him proper respect until after he was traded for Santana. Funny enough, for my experience, feels like almost like the opposite of what this thread represents :)
 

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