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Floyd Mayweather vs. Marcos Maidana

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Tyson? You're right about Ali and Frazier and some of the other greats. Mayweather won't surpass them. But I'm betting you won't find many boxing experts who'd rank Tyson ahead of Mayweather. His resume is sooo much better than Tyson's. He's beaten so many more accomplished fighters than Tyson.

Just off the top of my head, Tyson had two fights against guys considered "great" that he won. Holmes and Spinks. Looking around and I believe those are the only two fighters he beat that are in the Hall of Fame. And unless Trevor Berbick knows someone, those will forever be the only two fighters he beat in the Hall of Fame.

Meanwhile, Mayweather has beaten no fewer than five guys who will, in all likelihood, be in the Hall of Fame. De La Hoya and Gatti are already there. Eventually Jose Luis Castillo (who he beat twice) Shane Mosley, and Juan Manuel Marquez will be there. And a case could be made for Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales, and depending on how his career goes from here on out, Saul Alvarez.

Agreed, but when Floyd is talking about being "The Best Ever" that supersedes weight divisions. When you're talking about The Best Ever, like he is, I start comparing guys' respective styles and their intangibles and I don't think Floyd matches up to some of the best ever like the guys I listed above.

He's got a nice record but you have to also look at his opponents and take into account the fact that Floyd is known to have ducked some of the best competitors from time to time. The strength of his opponents, or lack of, is something that routinely gets brought up whenever people bring up his undefeated record.

But again, this is why I don't think it makes sense to mention Tyson. Yea, he fought some great fighters and that counts for something if you either win or look good losing, but getting obliterated by Holyfield and Lewis shouldn't count for shit. So he's got two wins on his card against top-notch talent, Holmes (who was old, but I counted Mayweather's fight against an over the hill De La Hoya), and Spinks. And that's it. Had he actually been competitive in his losses to Holyfield and Lewis, then I'd maybe consider it.
 
I also thought it was much closer then the judges that had it 117-111 and 116-112. I'm also the guy sitting on the couch watching it. Mayweather much cleaner but seemed Maidana controlled most of the fight. As for Floyd's entrance...What the Fuck. It pisses me off after all that and then hearing those USA chants. It's such a joke anymore. It's one thing to come out with Bieber and Wayne but having a fucking circus before the fight...What the Fuck. I want to see Khan and Mayweather next. If Maidana couldn't do it this time I don't think he'll ever be able to beat him. Great fight none the less.
 
Floyd freaked out a bit when he got cut and changed up the pace of that fight.

I thought the scores were pretty accurate, Maidana punched himself out early but really didn't connect with all that much.

Floyd was economical, landing some good shots and deserved that win after getting behind through the first four rounds.

Good fight, IMO.
 
They alluded to it in the post fight interviews, but I was saying all fight that Floyd's cut man should get a lot of credit. Totally neutralized a cut that would have completely swung the fight. For a defensive fighter that's never battled with a cut before, it might have been curtains.

Floyd will be remembered for ducking a good amount of fighters, but he still fought guys too. To an extent, most fighters duck some fighters, unfortunately. I'd put Cotto up there too in terms of good guys that Floyd fought. Tyson is my favorite fighter of all time but no where near the best for reasons listed above. Didn't beat too many guys of importance. Still, he was a killer... and the heavyweight division weeps at his absence.

EDIT: Broner might be my least favorite fighter of all time. When it comes down to it, dude has not earned the right to be as astoundingly arrogant. He's no Prince Naseem, let alone Floyd. Keep the theatrics at home.

I need someone to step up and fight Golovkin.
 
Rather than make a whole new thread for the Mayweather, Maidana rematch in a couple hours I thought it'd be best just to bump this. Should be a good rematch. Contrary to popular belief, I actually think Maidana will give Floyd a close, competitive fight. I feel like the media at large is disrespecting him by not giving him much of a chance.
 
Isn't this Floyd's last fight?

He aint losing
 
Terrible referee...

Shit is really frustrating.
 
Actually think we're going to see Floyd vs Manny next May… Floyd said in multiple interviews he wants it to happen now as long as Manny will agree to his terms. I couldn't even imagine the hype for that fight if they can actually get it done, even though a few years ago would have been even bigger.
 
Floyd will never actually fight Manny because he doesn't have to anymore.
 

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