Francisco Lindor, Carlos Carrasco Traded to the Mets

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Or... They can love a city but it doesn't mean they want to spend the rest of their career there. Yes, I think all things considered, if the money was equal Frankie would be here. But that's like saying all things equal, if I looked like Brad Pitt my ex-wife would still be here. But thats never happening, and things aren't equal, and Lindor knows this.
I talked to your ex wife.

Shes not really a big Brad Pitt girl. She actually said if you looked like Tony Grossi she’d have stuck around, which makes me wonder if there’s more to the story here.
 

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It is impossible for the $ to be equal. Ever The added endorsement $ he will make in NY is ridiculous compared to Cleveland.
Not if he falls on his face on the big stage. Not that I’m hoping for this.
 

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I talked to your ex wife.

Shes not really a big Brad Pitt girl. She actually said if you looked like Tony Grossi she’d have stuck around, which makes me wonder if there’s more to the story here.
In all fairness, Tony is a man who truly appreciates a Full Back.
 

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Or... They can love a city but it doesn't mean they want to spend the rest of their career there. Yes, I think all things considered, if the money was equal Frankie would be here. But that's like saying all things equal, if I looked like Brad Pitt my ex-wife would still be here. But thats never happening, and things aren't equal, and Lindor knows this.
Cheer up. Brad Pitt has twice the many ex wives as you.
 

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It’s just a business. Players do not love cities or fans. They are mercenaries

I disagree. Some players don't. Maybe even most don't. But I absolutely believe a guy like Carrasco loves Cleveland.
 

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Statistically speaking, this is likely to be Lindor's peak season, his Magnum Opus, his pièce de résistance.

I would not have traded it for anything, especially if I happened to be a billionaire major league franchise owner.
 

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So now we know the cost of keeping Lindor, or close there abouts - $22.3 in arb - just about what would be expected, and way to rich for the Indians blood
 

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I don't blame the Indians at all. But $100 million less is a huge difference and being willing to pay a guy $20 million per year that can get $30 million per year is not an offer you expect to get it done.
 

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I don't blame the Indians at all. But $100 million less is a huge difference and being willing to pay a guy $20 million per year that can get $30 million per year is not an offer you expect to get it done.
Just a guess here, the Indians probably weren't offering a 10 year deal. So while total difference is huge, the amount per year probably wasn't.

Though just a guess
 

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Just a guess here, the Indians probably weren't offering a 10 year deal. So while total difference is huge, the amount per year probably wasn't.

Though just a guess
Maybe

But the Indians would be looking for a discount, they don't pay full price, so I doubt the AAV was anywhere close to what Frankie thinks he is worth. That not to say the years were not different also. The only recent contract the Indians have come close to signing at market rates is probably Edwin, and that was only a 3 yr. No way Frankie was shopping for that length and no way the Indians were offering in the $30 plus range AAV wise. Never a deal to get done
 

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I will keep saying what I have been saying for a few months now.

The Indians were so, so close to extending him, then Covid shut stuff down. And don't take too much stock at the $ figure there, Indians were getting as creative as they could with their offer and it was for more than that total, at least in what I was being told. Much of the disconnect was over the length, not the total pay, but they were making significant progress on that.

Covid shutdown is going to be an interesting tipping point to research and talk about a decade out, because it's going to alter this teams future dramatically. From the top of the organization all the way to the bottom, no single event will effect the Indians future as much as Covid.
 

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I will keep saying what I have been saying for a few months now.

The Indians were so, so close to extending him, then Covid shut stuff down. And don't take too much stock at the $ figure there, Indians were getting as creative as they could with their offer and it was for more than that total, at least in what I was being told. Much of the disconnect was over the length, not the total pay, but they were making significant progress on that.

Covid shutdown is going to be an interesting tipping point to research and talk about a decade out, because it's going to alter this teams future dramatically. From the top of the organization all the way to the bottom, no single event will effect the Indians future as much as Covid.

Didn’t negotiations between Lindor and the organization end in February 2020 before COVID shut everything down though? I suppose if COVID never hit, the two sides could have re-engaged on extension talks this winter but it always felt he was going to hit free agency regardless.
 

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