Game #26 (Cleveland Cavaliers @ Indiana Pacers)

[jim jim]

Moo, why the hell would anybody want to talk about this team. I am going to drink a little and try to get the thought of what I just watch out of my head.

 

[Rich]

The threads are more depressing than the team. Some of you seriously need to see the forest for the trees and stop living and dying with every game. The team sucks. Come to grips with the fact and move on instead of getting your hopes before every game imagining they'll suddenly be better than you honestly know they'll be. Just accept the reality, and you'll be happier.

 

[Rich]

Cavs suck, that's why. What a piss poor display of basketball. NO desire. NO passion. Not much of anything out there since the very first quarter. Cavs suck.

What the hell happened to Scott's claim of a 8 man rotation again? He sucks as well. Hollins and Sessions shouldn't see the floor.... ever. Gibson disappeared tonight. He decided to take the night off. He was reading too many praises in the media and IN HERE. He didn't show up tonight.

This team is pitiful. Pathetic. Disgusting. Makes me sick.

So just stop watching. I mean if watching a basketball game can get you this pissed off a nightly basis, why in the wold would someone keep watching.

Doubt Daniel Gibson reads this board. Highly, highly doubt it.

No, he isn't good enough to score 15 points every night. This is going to happen.

For the billionth time, it isn't about passion or desire or anything else. It's about TALENT. The only reason the Cavs were close to Miami in the last game isn't because they played harder. It's because Daniel Gibson went 10-16 and had his best game in years. That isn't something you can count on happening most nights, or even some nights.

 

[MikeSwim07]

The Cavs definitely played with more heart vs Miami. Saying that that game was a fluke is just ignorant.

 

[moohead]

Sorry! My links was messed up. Only 1 person caught it. Ouch!!!

Moo

 

[Rich]

The Cavs definitely played with more heart vs Miami. Saying that that game was a fluke is just ignorant.

So the ONE game with Miami is the real thing, but the multitude of other games during this streak, they are the flukes? Sorry, the Cavs have been blown out a boatload of times during this streak, and most of those times to bad teams. You're choosing the one game against Miami and somehow saying that it's the rule and not the exception? No, that's ignorant and ignoring the larger sample.

 

[DougHeil]

So just stop watching. I mean if watching a basketball game can get you this pissed off a nightly basis, why in the wold would someone keep watching.

Doubt Daniel Gibson reads this board. Highly, highly doubt it.

No, he isn't good enough to score 15 points every night. This is going to happen.

For the billionth time, it isn't about passion or desire or anything else. It's about TALENT. The only reason the Cavs were close to Miami in the last game isn't because they played harder. It's because Daniel Gibson went 10-16 and had his best game in years. That isn't something you can count on happening most nights, or even some nights.

No. A true fan watches EACH game and he gets pissed off with EACH LOSE. What about that don't you understand? Maybe it's you who should stop watching if you actually believe passion and heart have nothing to do with a game. They do. If the Cavs had played with as much passion tonight as they did against the Heat, tonight would have been a win. Period.

 

[Rich]

No. A true fan watches EACH game and he gets pissed off with EACH LOSE. What about that don't you understand? Maybe it's you who should stop watching if you actually believe passion and heart have nothing to do with a game. They do. If the Cavs had played with as much passion tonight as they did against the Heat, tonight would have been a win. Period.

Passion and heart are things to fall back on when you can't point to an actual measurable. It's the same thing Kobe fans use to tell everyone that he is, in fact, a better player than LBJ.

You say the team lacks passion simply because it gets blown out over and over. You fail to realize that lack of talent, and a severe lack of talent, can lead to contiuous blowouts. A team can play hard and still get killed. Give me one thing this team did better against MIami as compared to tonight? The only difference is Daniel Gibson couldn't go 10-16 again. Did he play less hard? Did he suddenly not care? Or, is it because he just isn't good enough.

I'm done blaming losses on passion and desire. You do that with talented teams that are underperoming. This team, and people need to seriously think about this next line, IS NOT UNDERPERFORMING. Their record is almost exactly where it should be considering the talent level of the team. So many of you still, for w/e reason, think this team is actually better than it's been playing, and I just don't know how many blowout losses to bad teams it will take before you take the blinders off. Go back and read that Miami game thread. In the middle of if, you were again claiming the team lacked this so-called heart and desire....only suddenly to change your tune when they made a run. Do you think they just weren't trying until the end? You seem to be confusing making shots with playing hard. One does not mean the other.

This team sucks at defense not because it doesn't try, but because it doesn't have talented enough defenders. We have no shot blocker, a PG who plays his ass off but simply sucks at defense, a very undersized 2 and 3 guard, and a PF who hasn't been able to play defense his entire life. Again, this isn't heart, this is who these guys are. They can try all they want, and that doesn't mean they can beat a teams that are better than them.

Let me make this clear: This team has less talent than the Indiana Pacers. Period. If they were to play hard, then the only way they beat the Pacers is if the Pacers don't play as hard. And even then it would require them to actually make shots, which they struggle at.

 

[A_New_Era]

No. A true fan watches EACH game and he gets pissed off with EACH LOSE. What about that don't you understand? Maybe it's you who should stop watching if you actually believe passion and heart have nothing to do with a game. They do. If the Cavs had played with as much passion tonight as they did against the Heat, tonight would have been a win. Period.

Unfortunately in the NBA it seems like most (if not all) players leave a huge chunk of their passion and heart in college, and replace it with a by a big paycheck, money, star status, and entitlement. Most players treat it like a business, which it is, and the intensity and passion of a pro game is nowhere close to that of a college game. What you do get in the NBA is the highest level of talent, which is entertaining, but you have to accept that these players won't give anywhere near as much heart as those playing in college, where most kids are there for the love of the game. This is also why March Madness is the greatest event in sports.

 

[DougHeil]

Unfortunately in the NBA it seems like most (if not all) players leave a huge chunk of their passion and heart in college, and replace it with a by a big paycheck, money, star status, and entitlement. Most players treat it like a business, which it is, and the intensity and passion of a pro game is nowhere close to that of a college game. What you do get in the NBA is the highest level of talent, which is entertaining, but you have to accept that these players won't give anywhere near as much heart as those playing in college, where most kids are there for the love of the game. This is also why March Madness is the greatest event in sports.

I agree. There is no comparison to college games. The Boston Celtics are pretty much what I compare the passion stuff with. Those guys seem to care about winning each game. The Lakers play hard as well. The Cavs?.. not so much.

Byron Scott stated he liked how hard we played last night. I hate it when he overstates things like this. The fact is we only played hard and with true passion in the first quarter. That's it.

 

[Backstage]

Can we sign up Antawn for a weapon for Colt?

 

[Backstage]

Anderson Varejao: quarterback, volleyball setter and spiker, and all around nutjob.

...And these are all in the Pacers thread. Oh well!