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Game Thread 2020-21 Season | Game #18 | Pistons @ Cavs | January 27, 2021

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The last Cavs big man to do so was Andy V
So let me get this straight....Drummond has 23 points 16 rebounds AND FIVE STEALS and you guys STILL complain about him?????? Wow!!!!!
This the game thread. Get the fuck over it. This is the thread where the bitchin will be all up and through here.

Now what does your quote have to do with mine? I want him to have an impact on setting screens and freeing the guards. What’s wrong about that? Now have a goodnight.
 
So I haven’t been watching, but just checking in and 8 of 22 is such an ugly stat line from Drummond.
Especially since his shots come from inside the paint. He’s atrocious offensively going one v one.
 
Cavs must beat the Knicks and Timberwolves because after those three games they play 5 teams with winning records,two of them twice(Milwaukee and the Clippers).

Clippers
Milwaukee
Milwaukee
at Phoenix
at Denver
at Portland
at Clippers
 
Especially since his shots come from inside the paint. He’s atrocious offensively going one v one.
Drummond missed 15 shots. Collin took 14 shots. Collin scored more than drummond while taking half the shots drummond took. If drummond's missed shots were given to sexton instead, for sure the cavs would score more.

This is what's wrong with drummond and folks should realize that.
 
Cavs must beat the Knicks and Timberwolves because after those three games they play 5 teams with winning records,two of them twice(Milwaukee and the Clippers).

Clippers
Milwaukee
Milwaukee
at Phoenix
at Denver
at Portland
at Clippers
A testament to the growth of this team. We now have must win games to keep playoff hopes alive.
 
A testament to the growth of this team. We now have must win games to keep playoff hopes alive.

If,the Cavs win these next three games and be 3-4 after playing those teams with winning records. I'll be happy with it.

That would make them 6-4....
 
The last Cavs big man to do so was Andy V
So let me get this straight....Drummond has 23 points 16 rebounds AND FIVE STEALS and you guys STILL complain about him?????? Wow!!!!!

You obviously didn’t watch the game. We played far better with him on the bench, 50% of his rebounds were off his own misses and his 5 steals were almost negated by his 4 turnovers

Also Drummond was only a +\- 6 against the worst team in the nba.
Meanwhile Sexton had a +\- 25,

I still don’t understand peoples fascination with stats, stats don’t equal wins. According to that logic Westbrook is the best player in the league.
 
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Cavs must beat the Knicks and Timberwolves because after those three games they play 5 teams with winning records,two of them twice(Milwaukee and the Clippers).

Clippers
Milwaukee
Milwaukee
at Phoenix
at Denver
at Portland
at Clippers

Some of those are winnable.

Particularly the Clippers if George and Kawhi are out.

But we absolutely should expect to beat some of Portland, Phoenix, and Denver.
 
Some of those are winnable.

Particularly the Clippers if George and Kawhi are out.

But we absolutely should expect to beat some of Portland, Phoenix, and Denver.

I am very curious about Denver since we had their number all last year. These teams which the "sum is greater than their parts" seem particularly vulnerable to strong defense, which makes sense. Our team is one of those too.

It does seem like one guy routinely plays well against the cavs on each team. I think the commitment to man on man makes this happen, but the hope is no one else gets going. Seems to work frequently
 
I got comped arena seats for last night's game.

As you all know , I have been on Drummond's positives since he was acquired.. I remain convinced that when he is focused he is the best player on the court..

However.. Last night was a microcosm of good and bad Drummond.. it seemed half the time he took a rest on defense.. walking back to defend, hanging in the paint when his man popped outside, not making the rotation...The other half he was swatting, halting the inside moves, rebounding like a vacuum cleaner... On offense, he is tough to stop when he wants it, and pretty much gets fouled every time he goes up hard.. last night he got whacked in the face, the head, knocked over and tripped, but nary a call.. You could see he was visibly upset by this.. but he was not the only one as Windler got kicked in the gut..(Plumlee is just a dirty player, and the refs were horrible.. ). He does take bad shots, but he makes them often enough to keep making them. He also draws a crowd when he rolls to the basket, which Sexton follows him in and scores a lot on the pull up.. The pistons in the fourth set him up to get posterized by Plumlee ( rose did it) and it visibly pissed him off. Sexton came right back and fed Andre on the block so he could dunk it back on Plumlee... But in the end, the posters saying we are better when he is not playing are not wrong..

Some other takes from the game..

Garland is better than last year, but is still defensively in the wrong place often.. When he was in the pistons intentionally took it to him and it was pretty clear why.. He is not ready to defend a rose, or delon wright at all.

Playing Prince, Windler and Okoru, worked well regardless, but was best with Allen and Sexton.. Several times Sexton waived Windler over to take that straight on three, but Windler only tried it twice, and hit both.. Prince is a plus on both sides of the ball, and he creates problems for the opposition with his physical profile and activity.. Okoro actually whiffed a couple of defensive plays but was pretty solid, and quick to spot the right pass.. I have heard the small talk, but when there is a collision on the court, it's the other guy that's bouncing, while okoro barely moves.. very larry johnson like.. and the energy he brings is crazy..

Windler would be very very good if he added some strength.. he got beat up a lot, and I thought Plumlee punching and kicking was intentional.. Plumlee was to chicken to try that shit on Okoro..

On the other side of the ball, Jeremy grant is the real deal.. I also think Deron Wright is a real nba talent.. Doumboya plays like he just learned the game yesterday...I wouldn't give you a nickel for any of thier other players..
 
This the game thread. Get the fuck over it. This is the thread where the bitchin will be all up and through here.

Now what does your quote have to do with mine? I want him to have an impact on setting screens and freeing the guards. What’s wrong about that? Now have a goodnight.
Ooooooo you put me in my place!!! LOL!
Next time you complain about Dre’s screens do me a favor and watch how the guards initially go towards the pick and then don’t use it OR when they actually don’t “run” their man into the pick! Meaning they don’t dribble close enough to Dre to allow him to lay a good body on the man guarding his teammates! It is the responsibility of the man with the ball to make sure he “rubs” his man off on the pick and not give him room to slide off of it!
 
Ooooooo you put me in my place!!! LOL!
Next time you complain about Dre’s screens do me a favor and watch how the guards initially go towards the pick and then don’t use it OR when they actually don’t “run” their man into the pick! Meaning they don’t dribble close enough to Dre to allow him to lay a good body on the man guarding his teammates! It is the responsibility of the man with the ball to make sure he “rubs” his man off on the pick and not give him room to slide off of it!
You a day late and a dollar short. I didn’t read any of your bullshit because I don’t care about your opinion. This a game thread. Post what you see and move the fuck on. Thank you.
 
You a day late and a dollar short. I didn’t read any of your bullshit because I don’t care about your opinion. This a game thread. Post what you see and move the fuck on. Thank you.
Then don’t respond to my “bullshit”!
 

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