Game Thread 2020-21 Season | Game #29 | Cavs @ Warriors | February 15, 2021

[Dr. Claw]

If they're still playing like this with Nance and Love back on the active roster I'll advocate blowing it up. For now, just hope the NBA doesn't do some fuck shit like give the Warriors a good draft position with the Wolves pick and that the Cavs are picking in a place where they can get the right one.

 

[red.]

Except they sucked under Beilein and some under Lue as well

Lue was only given like 7 games. He went to four straight finals to a bare roster.

John Bielien was trash too. I thought all those years coaching would’ve been good for the Cavs, but he was a milk dud. In over his head.

I just want a good coach. Structure. Offensive system. Ball movement. Players in their proper roles. Enough is enough. It’s time to really get a culture in Cleveland.

 

[red.]

Woof. Garland -39. That’s the highest I’ve ever seen. A fucking mess.

 

[RchfldCavRaised]

Woof. Garland -39. That’s the highest I’ve ever seen. A fucking mess.

Without a doubt, in the 2nd half that was the worst I've ever seen him play

I think it was made worse by all the antics and hopping around as if he deserved calls.

 

[red.]

Without a doubt, in the 2nd half that was the worst I've ever seen him play

I think it was made worse by all the antics and hopping around as if he deserved calls.

Yep. His head was NOT in the game. The thing is, Garland doesn’t know his role. It seems like he defer. Then he tries to get in a rhythm. This is why the Cavs need structure. A pecking order. Establish Garland as the fucking PG and Sexton as SG.

 

[Dr No]

I’m hoping SA continues with their COVID issues. We could use the time off to regroup. We are not in a good place

 

[Rich]

They ugh..they can't keep starting Okoro. It's doing nothing for him at all.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Curry had 24 in the first half and only 12 in the second but only because the W's blew out the Cavs in the third quarter. If the game had been closer he could have easily had 50.

The Cavs have one game in the next five days and that's not a sure thing because San Antonio has a COVID problem. Some days off will give them a chance to work on some defensive issues. Too much confusion and ball watching led to back door cuts and uncontested dunks. It was embarassing to watch Green get 15 assists, most of which where to guys cutting uncontested to the rim. Cavs players were getting back picked and their teammates either weren't calling it out or weren't switching.

The Cavs had 15 offensive rebounds but still only managed 98 points thanks to 17 turnovers and extremely poor shooting: 38.9% from the field and 26.7% on 3's. The difference between the Cavs' shooting accuracy on open shots and all of their opponents on this trip has been shocking. The Cavs are The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight. The Warriors shot 7% higher on 3's than the Cavs did on 2's.

Despite having nobody over 6'7" the Warriors held Allen to 5-for-12 from the field and 13 points. I was expecting more but Draymond Green is still one of the best defensive players in the league and an amazing passer.

Garland had a horrible game going 6-for-20 with a -39 in 40 minutes. Cedi managed 17 points but it took 15 shots and he was a -35. Okoro was back to being Okoro with 2 points on 1-for-8. I'm glad he wasn't injured on that charge, though. Stevens had a very impressive dunk.

No Love, Nance, Drummond, Windler, and Prince tonight. Not that we would have won even with all those guys, but it probably would not have been so embarassing.

 

[benchplayer]

The thing that's getting to me with garland is there's no sense of urgency. as someone said earlier, this is a young team, why are we walking the ball up the court and letting the defense get settled?

 

[red.]

The thing that's getting to me with garland is there's no sense of urgency. as someone said earlier, this is a young team, why are we walking the ball up the court and letting the defense get settled?

Why isn’t the coach telling them to pick up the pace? Isn’t the Cavs last in the league in pace? If everything is on the players. JBB is not needed here. They can continue to coach themselves.

 

[MirORich]

They ugh..they can't keep starting Okoro. It's doing nothing for him at all.

Should be 18mpg at this point off the bench until he proves/shows otherwise.

Obviously, you move Exum for Allen every time, but damn, you could make an argument that are three most reliable playmakers on the roster to start the season were Nance, Love, and Exum, all of whom are not playing for the Cavs at the moment. Collin and Garland both need to have training wheels on. Neither are ready to run an offense full time and we’re currently starting both.

Even Delly’s concussion issue is a set back
I don’t even know how to view KPJ but that’s irrelevant

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

We need to do whatever it takes to keep Allen. I don't like how it's trending. Sexton should fucking behave. I'll trade him before I part with Allen.

Fucking hell, this team is freefalling.

 

[CleveRocks]

Curry had 24 in the first half and only 12 in the second but only because the W's blew out the Cavs in the third quarter. If the game had been closer he could have easily had 50.

The Cavs have one game in the next five days and that's not a sure thing because San Antonio has a COVID problem. Some days off will give them a chance to work on some defensive issues. Too much confusion and ball watching led to back door cuts and uncontested dunks. It was embarassing to watch Green get 15 assists, most of which where to guys cutting uncontested to the rim. Cavs players were getting back picked and their teammates either weren't calling it out or weren't switching.

The Cavs had 15 offensive rebounds but still only managed 98 points thanks to 17 turnovers and extremely poor shooting: 38.9% from the field and 26.7% on 3's. The difference between the Cavs' shooting accuracy on open shots and all of their opponents on this trip has been shocking. The Cavs are The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight. The Warriors shot 7% higher on 3's than the Cavs did on 2's.

Despite having nobody over 6'7" the Warriors held Allen to 5-for-12 from the field and 13 points. I was expecting more but Draymond Green is still one of the best defensive players in the league and an amazing passer.

Garland had a horrible game going 6-for-20 with a -39 in 40 minutes. Cedi managed 17 points but it took 15 shots and he was a -35. Okoro was back to being Okoro with 2 points on 1-for-8. I'm glad he wasn't injured on that charge, though. Stevens had a very impressive dunk.

No Love, Nance, Drummond, Windler, and Prince tonight. Not that we would have won even with all those guys, but it probably would not have been so embarassing.

Offensive bad is not different.defensively not trying is different. They are not playing the head nose defense they started the year with. So blowouts are the norm...

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Curry had 36 points in 30 minutes. He could have scored 60 if he needed to. Green set a career high in assists, pretty much all of which came from the elbow. He's not going to shoot from there and Allen was sloughing off, but there were still lots of opportunities for Green to pass to an open teammate either popping out from a screen or cutting to the hoop off a back pick. The fact that this was Green's 723rd career game and he never had this many assists tells you how bad the Cavs' defense was. The other Warriors just kept setting off-the-ball screens for each other and getting open for Green's passes and the Cavs were almost defenseless.

On the play that led to the Sexton-Allen argument Green had the ball at the elbow guarded by Allen. Curry simply set an inside pick on Allen, who looked like he didn't realize Curry was there until Green started his move. Green went around Curry as Allen got hung up on Curry's screen and Sexton just stuck to Curry, ignoring Green, who waltzed down the lane for an uncontested power slam.

It appeared to me like Sexton 1) didn't call out the pick to Allen, and 2) was so intently focused on Curry that he was oblivious to defending the play. The way Curry was shooting I can understand that Collin was locked on to him and mainly concerned with not letting him get the ball. He may have been surprised that Curry actually set a pick on a center because he rarely does that. But it looked like Sexton was so focused on his individual matchup with Curry that he had tunnel vision and left Allen hanging out to dry, which explains why Allen was so upset.

Like I said, the Cavs have one game in the next five days and that's assuming San Antonio gets some guys back by Weds. The Cavs have a lot to do this week. The good thing is they know they won't have Drummond so they can focus on the rotation they will be using.

 

[N7RobBob]

Glad we’re at least competing but I have never seen a team double clutch their way out of taking so many open threes in my life. They have got to get better at just quick release pulling the trigger. It’s 2021

Already learning from Jarrett Jack!