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Game Thread | 2020-21 Season | Game #60 | Cavs @ Wizards | April 25, 2021

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I didn't see the game,I went to bed early but I see the bench shit the bed as usual....
 
2 games in a row we could have won, but we just can’t get stops when we need them.
Getting stops against Beal and Westbrook is easier said than done. Our problem is we had no bench. We needed somebody like Gafford who could come in and contribute 12 pts, 6 boards, 4 steals, and 4 blocked shots. Nance is capable of that on his best nights, but he's not fully recovered from his serious illness where he lost 20 pounds. At least he isn't playing like it.
 
i can pick a handful of games for sexton too

in early february he was -22, +4, -24, -5, -27, -7, -31, -26 and -22

delly is -18 on the year, playing 5 full games, this is ok on this team


I hate when people throw out numbers without content. Sexton is the only starter that plays a huge amount of time with the bench.When,he'son the court with the bench teams are double teaming him because he's the only scoring threat on the court.

Nance can't shoot

Dellavedova can't shoot

Cedi,Wade and share are inconsistent with their shooting.

Stevens isnt a three-point threat.

Somehow, you expect Sexton to succeed with a bunch of players that can't shoot when he's on the court with the bench...The bench has been the weakest link all season because we don't have no shooters there. Until,this team address the bench this upcoming offseason,it will be a problem again next season.

The majority of our long runs comes when Sexton and Garland is on the court together.

This is,why advanced stats and plus/minus are stupid because it never take account to anything at all.
 
I hate when people throw out numbers without content. Sexton is the only starter that plays a huge amount of time with the bench.When,he'son the court with the bench teams are double teaming him because he's the only scoring threat on the court.

Nance can't shoot

Dellavedova can't shoot

Cedi,Wade and share are inconsistent with their shooting.

Stevens isnt a three-point threat.

Somehow, you expect Sexton to succeed with a bunch of players that can't shoot when he's on the court with the bench...The bench has been the weakest link all season because we don't have no shooters there. Until,this team address the bench this upcoming offseason,it will be a problem again next season.

The majority of our long runs comes when Sexton and Garland is on the court together.

This is,why advanced stats and plus/minus are stupid because it never take account to anything at all.
Raw plus minus is not an advanced stat. Box plus minus is an advanced stat and paints a better picture. For example, Cedi had the worst raw +/- on the team last night but second best box +/-. I think most people watching the game would say he was closer to second best than worst.
 
I’d like to see that failed oop from Allen to Okoro again. If Okoro can’t finish an open oop that’s disappointing
Well, Okoro is only about 5’8”, right?

It’s HARD for him to finish an oop.
 
I hate when people throw out numbers without content. Sexton is the only starter that plays a huge amount of time with the bench.When,he'son the court with the bench teams are double teaming him because he's the only scoring threat on the court.

Nance can't shoot

Dellavedova can't shoot

Cedi,Wade and share are inconsistent with their shooting.

Stevens isnt a three-point threat.

Somehow, you expect Sexton to succeed with a bunch of players that can't shoot when he's on the court with the bench...The bench has been the weakest link all season because we don't have no shooters there. Until,this team address the bench this upcoming offseason,it will be a problem again next season.

The majority of our long runs comes when Sexton and Garland is on the court together.

This is,why advanced stats and plus/minus are stupid because it never take account to anything at all.
Yes, nobody on our bench can create their own shot or is even willing to try, so there is no choice but to put our best shot creator out there to either beat his man and score or beat his man, force another defender to pick him up, and then hit the unguarded teammate with a pass.

Our bench players can only score after somebody else breaks down the defense and gets them an uncontested shot.
 
Getting stops against Beal and Westbrook is easier said than done. Our problem is we had no bench. We needed somebody like Gafford who could come in and contribute 12 pts, 6 boards, 4 steals, and 4 blocked shots. Nance is capable of that on his best nights, but he's not fully recovered from his serious illness where he lost 20 pounds. At least he isn't playing like
Getting stops against Beal and Westbrook is easier said than done. Our problem is we had no bench. We needed somebody like Gafford who could come in and contribute 12 pts, 6 boards, 4 steals, and 4 blocked shots. Nance is capable of that on his best nights, but he's not fully recovered from his serious illness where he lost 20 pounds. At least he isn't playing like it.
Our bench didn’t score much (obviously) but the team was still ahead by 2 with 5:05 left when the last reserve headed to the bench. Our “closers” proceeded to give up 16 points in less than 5 minutes and lose by 9. Same thing happened against Charlotte. Your closing lineup simply has to get some stops if you are going to be successful.
 
Our bench didn’t score much (obviously) but the team was still ahead by 2 with 5:05 left when the last reserve headed to the bench. Our “closers” proceeded to give up 16 points in less than 5 minutes and lose by 9. Same thing happened against Charlotte. Your closing lineup simply has to get some stops if you are going to be successful.
Well, it was our "closers" without Sexton and with Garland playing 40 minutes.
 
Well, it was our "closers" without Sexton and with Garland playing 40 minutes.
Sexton & even a rested Garland aren’t getting us many more stops. But it would help us score with them. But my original point remains - we have to get some stops when games are on the line. The defense collapsed down the stretch in both of the last two games.
 
I hate when people throw out numbers without content. Sexton is the only starter that plays a huge amount of time with the bench.When,he'son the court with the bench teams are double teaming him because he's the only scoring threat on the court.

Nance can't shoot

Dellavedova can't shoot

Cedi,Wade and share are inconsistent with their shooting.

Stevens isnt a three-point threat.

Somehow, you expect Sexton to succeed with a bunch of players that can't shoot when he's on the court with the bench...The bench has been the weakest link all season because we don't have no shooters there. Until,this team address the bench this upcoming offseason,it will be a problem again next season.

The majority of our long runs comes when Sexton and Garland is on the court together.

This is,why advanced stats and plus/minus are stupid because it never take account to anything at all.

ok so the context is sexton was -100 over a few games because he has to play with the bench and they are not a threat

excellent news, tell that to the guy who is mocking delly for being -18 on the year so far
 
ok so the context is sexton was -100 over a few games because he has to play with the bench and they are not a threat

excellent news, tell that to the guy who is mocking delly for being -18 on the year so far


If,you wanna go on about a player's plus/minus more power to you but it still doesn't change how stupid all of these advanced stats are especially that one.
 
If,you wanna go on about a player's plus/minus more power to you but it still doesn't change how stupid all of these advanced stats are especially that one.

someone else wanted to go on about a players plus/minus, so i just gave more information on another player so that there can be a comparison

btw the cavs offense is better with delly on court, the field goal percentage is 47.7% (45.3% without him), the assists are up, turnovers are down, 3pt% is up and they are making more threes

and he does this with no shot, no speed and coming off the year from hell with covid downtime, concussion, appendicitis and now a neck strain, this is a heroic situation just like when kurt angle won the gold medal with a broken neck
 

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