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Game Thread | 2021-2022 Season | Game #72 | Lakers @ Cavs | March 21, 2022 | 7:00 p.m.

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LeVert has been insanely inefficient. He's 3rd on the team in usage (!!), but is shooting career lows across the board. His TS% is a vomit-inducing 47, the worst in the team if you exclude Moses Brown, who's not really a basketball player.
 
LeVert has been insanely inefficient. He's 3rd on the team in usage (!!), but is shooting career lows across the board. His TS% is a vomit-inducing 47, the worst in the team if you exclude Moses Brown, who's not really a basketball player.

Such a minuscule sample size with variables such as being a new player on a new team in a new role he’s never been asked to play before, throw in a foot injury and a minutes reatriction…

So we have a bunch of stats that are essentially meaningless.

What we do know is that he has likely been a catalyst to at least 3 wins that would have otherwise been losses..in 9 games. And we have some indications that when he is playing with our closing lineup good things are happening.

In 45 minutes the LeVert, Okoro, Mobley, Garland, Markannen is +11. Which is a really, really, really amazing number.

When that changes to Osman, LeVert, Love, Mobley, Rondo…theyre -6.8. But only in 22 minutes of game time..

LeVert, Okoro, Allen, Mobley, Garland looks really ugly though -34.4!!!. But only barely 20 minutes on the court so likely just statistical noise, probably just two games or so worth of play where they got absolutely housed. And that is honestly a lineup I wouldn’t be a fan of because until Okoro becomes a knockdown shooter(though he’s been $$ from the right corner recently), and at least one of Mobley or Allen becomes passable…the spacing there is rough and underscores the importance of Markannen at the 3.

Early retirement s seems like a more traditional lineup with decent spacing and Garland+LeVert together with a shooting big and a strong roll man is the optimal lineup. And it makes sense, and that’s what we’ve often been closing with especially with Allen out.

The key to LeVert and Garland working well together is mobility and spacing/shooting.

LeVert has the potential to be a great asset for this team but we absolutely have to add a strong, consistent shooter. A knockdown 40%+ guy consistently slotting directly into Osmans minutes is the dream, plus a guy like Sexton slotting into all the Rondo/Goodwin minutes plus giving Garland and LeVert another weapon/shooter/scorer and a guy who can help them get tests at the right time.

I actually think the Cavs once healthy next year are on the precipice of building something pretty special, they just really need to find one elite shooter, and hope that Okoro becomes PJ tucker from the corners which..his corner 3 looks good is all I’m sayin…and we know Mobleys going to be a passable shooter too it’s just a matter of when.

But there are a lot of good signs to point to which mean a lot considering the basic efficiency stats have gotten off to a sour start. He’s played 9 games entering a team mid season and half half been on a minutes restriction with his foot not 100% as he works to regain his burst and quick plant ability. LeVert is not a guy who skips and falls over himself or gets blocked.

Anything other than patience with LeVert in my mind is pointlessly reactionary.
 
Yeah, but we needed a solid 3 point shooter before we got Levert and we traded away assets we would need to get that shooter for Levert. My question is, what exactly is Levert doing for us if he's not spacing the floor, not a particularly good passer, and can't step into Garland's role running the offense when needed? Is he being another sort of pretty good but not really that good player? Because we have a lot of those already. How is Levert going to end up being better than Cedi Osman?
 
Yeah, but we needed a solid 3 point shooter before we got Levert and we traded away assets we would need to get that shooter for Levert. My question is, what exactly is Levert doing for us if he's not spacing the floor, not a particularly good passer, and can't step into Garland's role running the offense when needed? Is he being another sort of pretty good but not really that good player? Because we have a lot of those already. How is Levert going to end up being better than Cedi Osman?

The pressure on opposing defenses when they can’t just key in on one guy as the only ball handler in the half court especially in the playoffs…he’s an adequate passer as a secondary ball handler..we’ve already seen in with that closing lineup I mentioned. It keeps defenses off balance. Even if they don’t guard LeVert close from 3 he’s great at converting that space into creating good offense, the offense was at its best with getting the ball to one of the other in motion..I can describe it in more detail later I have to go for now..but it’s why I’m championing Caris starting with Garland
 
I actually think the Cavs once healthy next year are on the precipice of building something pretty special, they just really need to find one elite shooter, and hope that Okoro becomes PJ tucker from the corners which..his corner 3 looks good is all I’m sayin…and we know Mobleys going to be a passable shooter too it’s just a matter of when.

I think that's less likely as the season goes on.

The defense has been entirely exposed. I expect that to carry into next season until changes are forced, whenever that may be.

I think there's gonna be a substantial step backwards to start next season.
 
I think that's less likely as the season goes on.

The defense has been entirely exposed. I expect that to carry into next season until changes are forced, whenever that may be.

I think there's gonna be a substantial step backwards to start next season.

I mean there’s a whole off-season and training camp between now and then so I don’t think there’s any way to accurately pinpoint anything like that. Just personal development from Okoro, Mobley and Allen…

I do think they will need to prioritize getting a strong point of attack defender for the bench preferably one that can shoot, in the off season.
They’ll have the entire MLE to work with and now I think Osman contract as a base salary for a mid salary trade could potentially make a difference.

Expectations certainly will be there…

But I also think about just how good Mobley may be coming into next year. Like…with how good he came into the league at…Mobley could be such an elite defensive anchor that it won’t even matter what other teams have “figured out”.
 
Such a minuscule sample size with variables such as being a new player on a new team in a new role he’s never been asked to play before, throw in a foot injury and a minutes reatriction…

So we have a bunch of stats that are essentially meaningless.

What we do know is that he has likely been a catalyst to at least 3 wins that would have otherwise been losses..in 9 games. And we have some indications that when he is playing with our closing lineup good things are happening.

In 45 minutes the LeVert, Okoro, Mobley, Garland, Markannen is +11. Which is a really, really, really amazing number.

When that changes to Osman, LeVert, Love, Mobley, Rondo…theyre -6.8. But only in 22 minutes of game time..

LeVert, Okoro, Allen, Mobley, Garland looks really ugly though -34.4!!!. But only barely 20 minutes on the court so likely just statistical noise, probably just two games or so worth of play where they got absolutely housed. And that is honestly a lineup I wouldn’t be a fan of because until Okoro becomes a knockdown shooter(though he’s been $$ from the right corner recently), and at least one of Mobley or Allen becomes passable…the spacing there is rough and underscores the importance of Markannen at the 3.

Early retirement s seems like a more traditional lineup with decent spacing and Garland+LeVert together with a shooting big and a strong roll man is the optimal lineup. And it makes sense, and that’s what we’ve often been closing with especially with Allen out.

The key to LeVert and Garland working well together is mobility and spacing/shooting.

LeVert has the potential to be a great asset for this team but we absolutely have to add a strong, consistent shooter. A knockdown 40%+ guy consistently slotting directly into Osmans minutes is the dream, plus a guy like Sexton slotting into all the Rondo/Goodwin minutes plus giving Garland and LeVert another weapon/shooter/scorer and a guy who can help them get tests at the right time.

I actually think the Cavs once healthy next year are on the precipice of building something pretty special, they just really need to find one elite shooter, and hope that Okoro becomes PJ tucker from the corners which..his corner 3 looks good is all I’m sayin…and we know Mobleys going to be a passable shooter too it’s just a matter of when.

But there are a lot of good signs to point to which mean a lot considering the basic efficiency stats have gotten off to a sour start. He’s played 9 games entering a team mid season and half half been on a minutes restriction with his foot not 100% as he works to regain his burst and quick plant ability. LeVert is not a guy who skips and falls over himself or gets blocked.

Anything other than patience with LeVert in my mind is pointlessly reactionary.
"In 45 minutes the LeVert, Okoro, Mobley, Garland, Markannen is +11. Which is a really, really, really amazing number."

Well, heck. Let this be our starting lineup. Play them 40 minutes, and we'll be up 9 or so. Then let our backups just do their thing and hold the lead.
 
"In 45 minutes the LeVert, Okoro, Mobley, Garland, Markannen is +11. Which is a really, really, really amazing number."

Well, heck. Let this be our starting lineup. Play them 40 minutes, and we'll be up 9 or so. Then let our backups just do their thing and hold the lead.

I’ll admit that a 45minute sample size isn’t the greatest either. But honestly just from what I see when Caris and Darius have mobility and shooting/spacing they’re s damn good combo.
 
I’ll admit that a 45minute sample size isn’t the greatest either. But honestly just from what I see when Caris and Darius have mobility and shooting/spacing they’re s damn good combo.

I've also been very pleasantly surprised at how effective the LeVert/Okoro tandem has looked on the wings. They seem to have good chemistry together on both ends of the court. I've seen a handful of plays where LeVert does a great job of slowing up Okoro's man after Issac goes over a screen, giving Okoro just enough time to recover without LeVert losing his man entirely. That's something the Cavs don't get when they play a slower guy like Lauri or even Wade at the other wing spot.
 
I’ll admit that a 45minute sample size isn’t the greatest either. But honestly just from what I see when Caris and Darius have mobility and shooting/spacing they’re s damn good combo.
Despite what some people have said, LeVert doesn't seem to have any trouble giving up the ball. He doesn't have the court awareness that Garland does, but he can drive well and kick to Garland, Okoro, or Markkanen well.
 
I’ll admit that a 45minute sample size isn’t the greatest either. But honestly just from what I see when Caris and Darius have mobility and shooting/spacing they’re s damn good combo.
Considering that they've had a relatively miniscule amount of time on the court together to figure anything out, they haven't been horrible. LeVert is better than advertised defensively and that helps. But damn his default go-to game is fugly. Dribbling into the paint and toss up a contested off balance shot doesn't impress many fans. He isn't horrible from outside, and I haven't seen him used off ball in motion off screens much, seems like he just stands and watches until DG passes him the ball, or sometimes he initiates and then DG stands and watches. The few times DG ran motion and came off ball off screens it looked good, just not something they tried more than a couple of times.

I just feel like we could be so much better, and we just refuse to even try running a more efficient offense that enables team play, and that would ultimately help DG by taking some focus and strain off of him.
 
I mean there’s a whole off-season and training camp between now and then so I don’t think there’s any way to accurately pinpoint anything like that. Just personal development from Okoro, Mobley and Allen…

I do think they will need to prioritize getting a strong point of attack defender for the bench preferably one that can shoot, in the off season.
They’ll have the entire MLE to work with and now I think Osman contract as a base salary for a mid salary trade could potentially make a difference.

Expectations certainly will be there…

But I also think about just how good Mobley may be coming into next year. Like…with how good he came into the league at…Mobley could be such an elite defensive anchor that it won’t even matter what other teams have “figured out”.

If the league is completely reverting back to calling fouls the way they were last season as a permanent thing, then the entire premise of our unit falters.

I think they're looking at having to move Markennen out of the starting lineup to be a successful defensive unit again.
 
Even after that hot game from the corners, Okoro is only shooting 34% on the year from corners despite taking 70+% of his 3's from those spots.

23.5% of the league's 3s are taken from the corners and made at 38% clip.

Okoro shot 36.6% from there last season...
 
I think they're looking at having to move Markennen out of the starting lineup to be a successful defensive unit again.
I don't think they'll bench the dude with the 2nd highest net rating in the team after Garland, and the only real spacing threat in the starting lineup. As long as Allen is out, this team is simply broken defensively. Can't be helped.

Lauri can't stop the top offensive wings/centers of the league when they go to the basket, but you really can't expect that. These guys are just too good. We should be a lot more worried about the open 3pt shots we keep giving to everyone with a pulse. That's what kills you in this league.
 

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