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Game Thread | 2021-2022 Season | Game #81 | Cavs @ Nets | April 8, 2022 | 7:30 p.m.

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KevinLoveFan said:
We normally agree on a lot of things, but I do think JBB deserves some criticism for not playing Stevens at all in the 4th. Stevens was phenomenal on Durant in the 3rd and really gave the whole team an energy spark on D.

But I do agree the Nets are a better team than us, so I'm not totally surprised at the L. I decided to watch a bit to see if we had a chance. I was surprised it was close much of the way. And not everything should be placed on JBB. But not playing Stevens in the 4th was a bad decision IMO, and one most agree with here. It may be stated in some over-the-top ways by some posters, but it's a valid criticism.
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I'm with you. I agree Stevens was the best guy to check KD by a wide margin. Okoro did well against Kyrie defensively as well but with Okoro we're still 4 against 5 on our offensive end. LeVert actually played pretty good defense on both Kyrie and KD. I would have left Stevens in to guard KD, put LeVert on Kyrie and sat Okoro for the offense Caris provides. Put Laurie on Drummond and let Evan dominate against Brown or whoever. So yeah I would have done it different than JB did.

But you know, I grew up with an alcoholic father and one of his steady rants was bitching relentlessly about any and all Cleveland head coaches during games. When I get nostalgic for that all I need to do is visit the game thread here. :chuckle:
 
dms said:
Hey that's not fair, I bitched about Okoro's rebounding months ago and was ruthlessly attacked because that was not his role. Okoro knows his role. His role is to stand in the corner and do as little as possible in order to make it seem like we are playing 4 on 5.
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… “seem?” :chuckle:
 
backstreet hooper said:
Agree. The Cavs lost the momentum in the fourth quarter because their players, not the coach, missed their open shots for several possessions in a row whereas the Nets made them. This is how many of the losses are created for teams night after night in the NBA.
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That's how I thought it usually worked too. Apparently there's more to it according to some.
 
Okoro is enough of a coaches pet that it’s safe to say if he’s standing in the corner doing nothing, that’s his role for the game. If he’s back cutting baseline and swinging around screens to get the ball in motion, that’s his role for the game. We could have decimated the Nets with the cutting today but instead we got the corner camper.
 
buzzdog said:
That's how I thought it usually worked too. Apparently there's more to it according to some.
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The Cavs had lost the momentum before their best players even stepped in the game. We had our geriatrics throwing 40 foot transition passes blindly into traffic after key stops instead with less than 10 minutes to play in the game, leading to transition 3s on the other end.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Okoro is enough of a coaches pet that it’s safe to say if he’s standing in the corner doing nothing, that’s his role for the game. If he’s back cutting baseline and swinging around screens to get the ball in motion, that’s his role for the game. We could have decimated the Nets with the cutting today but instead we got the corner camper.
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Okoro is quickly turning into Bradley Zimmer for me. Hate seeing him get so many mins consistently without producing anything. Dude is a nightmare.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
The Cavs had lost the momentum before their best players even stepped in the game. We had our geriatrics throwing 40 foot transition passes blindly into traffic after key stops instead with less than 10 minutes to play in the game, leading to transition 3s on the other end.
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Lauri had foul trouble. That's why he was sitting. LeVert also had foul trouble. So what do you do? We have to put someone out there. Just like the Nets had bench players out there. I don't know. All in all I think the Cavs gave a pretty gritty effort tonight. And without Allen, we don't have all our players in their most effective roles which hurts us in many ways.
 
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Great effort but you knew that if it was close going into the 4th quarter Durant was going to take over the game. He came in with 10:32 left in the 4th and the Nets down by four points. They immediately went on a 12-2 run to take the lead that they never gave up. Like I always say, if it's a close game the team with the best individual player will win almost every time.

This one was probably lost in two ways; defensive rebounding and 3-point shooting. The Nets got 13 offensive rebounds and that doesn't count the numerous times they missed a shot and the ball went out of bounds off a Cavalier. With 8 minutes to go in the 3rd the Nets had a 19-4 advantage on second chance points. The Cavs forced a lot of missed shots but were horrible at getting the first rebound. Only in the 3rd quarter when Love and Stevens started getting rebounds did the Cavs come back.

The Cavs were only 8-for-27 on 3's after shooting over 44% two nights ago. You can't beat the Nets shooting under 30% from deep.

This was a winnable game with better 3-point shooting and halfway decent rebouding on the defensive glass. The Nets took 92 shots to 82 for the Cavs mostly due to their offensive rebounding.

Okoro had a line of 3/1/1 in 28 minutes. Really Bickerstaff? How long are you going to keep pretending that he's helping the team?

I'm hoping Milwaukee gets the tiebreaker over Boston so they will have 2nd place clinched and can rest their starters on Sunday but I don't know at this point. If Boston wins and Milwaukee loses to the Cavs they would have the same record, they both would be Division winners, and they both would have the same record against the East. It would go to whatever the fourth tiebreaker is.

If Milwaukee doesn't have second place clinched they will beat the Cavs and we'll probably end up 10th.
 
It seemed like the Nets won all the 50/50 balls, and they had a lot of the long stray rebounds bounce right to them.
 
What annoyed me was seeing all of our players camping on the 3pt line watching Garland or any ball handler operate.
None of these guys should be camping at the arc. Except love, because he's slow. None of the others are shooters.
Like what kind of offensive strategy is that. No cutting, picks, passing, nothing.

One person drives, runs into a wall and throws a hail mary pass back outside. Over and over again.

Thats what sets me off about JBB, not some circle jerk nonsense.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
I'm hoping Milwaukee gets the tiebreaker over Boston so they will have 2nd place clinched and can rest their starters on Sunday but I don't know at this point. If Boston wins and Milwaukee loses to the Cavs they would have the same record, they both would be Division winners, and they both would have the same record against the East. It would go to whatever the fourth tiebreaker is.

If Milwaukee doesn't have second place clinched they will beat the Cavs and we'll probably end up 10th.
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They don't. The Bucks win the 3 way tiebreakers between them, Boston, and Philly, and they win the 2 way tie breaker between them and Philly, but if it's a 2 way tie between them and Boston the Celts get it based on record versus playoff teams
There's no way that is decided before we play them. The question then becomes does Milwaukee want the 2 seed and that's where it gets iffy. The 2 seed most likely gets the Nets while the 3 seed gets the Bulls. The Bulls are almost as bad as us lately so anyone would prefer them, but then you risk home court in the next round if the Celts beat the Nets. It's a tough decision, though I'm not sure we beat the Buck backups at this point.
 
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Lol at people thinking we can’t beat the the Bucks backups at home with Mobley……We would have beat the Magic’s with Mobley and probably the Sixers he’s 10x better then Moses…..
 
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