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Game Thread | 2021-22 Season | Game #4 | Cavs @ Nuggets | Oct. 25, 2021

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The Nuggets are 2-0, having beaten Phoenix 110-98 and San Antonio 102-96. Not high scoring games by current NBA standards. The Nuggets were 47-25 last year and won their first playoff series before getting swept by the Suns in the WC Finals.

The Nuggets hammered the Cavs last year by scores of 133-95 in Denver and 120-103 in Cleveland. The second game was especially memorable because Jamal Murray poured in 50 points, going 21-for-25 from the field and 8-for-10 on 3’s. He did not shoot a free throw. Hard to believe a guy lit the Cavs up for 50 and nobody fouled him once. Let's hope they're not that soft this year.

The good news for the Cavs is that Murray is out indefinitely with an ACL, suffered with one month left in the '20-'21 season. Denver averaged 115 ppg last year but is at 106 after two games this year, so Murray’s absence is being felt. He averaged 21.2 ppg.

Nikola Jokic is coming off a 32/16/7 game with three steals against the Spurs. Watching the battle between the supremely skilled Jokic, who is listed at 7’0”, 284, and the Cavs’ bigs will be interesting to say the least. I would like to see him doubled by two bigs when he gets the ball to force him to give it up. He's a skilled passer, however.

In their most recent game against the Spurs the Nuggets had 10 steals, so the Cavs need to protect the ball. The Spurs also had 21 turnovers so steal opportunities are there for the Cavs. There could be a lot of turnovers in this game.

Jokic scored 32 in his last game; nobody else had more than 13. With Murray out everything runs through the big man.

Here are some excerpts from John Hollinger’s preview, with highlights:

Big picture-wise, it was a fairly typical Nuggets season, with the defense trailing the offense. The offense was hurt by a bizarre inability to draw fouls despite having a dominant center; Denver was 28th in free throw rate, as high-volume players like Porter and Will Barton virtually never got to the line, and Jokic, for all his other artistry, hasn’t mastered the flop.

Defensively, looking at this team’s stats leaves me scratching my head how it finished 12th overall.
The Nuggets were by far the worst team in the league defending at the rim, allowing 74.8 percent shooting from 0 to 3 feet — the next-worst team, Sacramento, was at 71 percent. Only three clubs surrendered more dunks, although overall, Denver surrendered relatively few shots at the rim; they just all went in. It almost seems heroic that they somehow finished in the top half of the league overall despite their timid rim protection. Some of that is on Jokic, but the Nuggets also had no real backup center and played a fairly aggressive style that left their bigs away from the basket. Denver’s best defense was preventing a shot attempt in the first place; by finishing in the top 10 in both forced turnovers and defensive rebounding, the Nuggets cobbled together an average defense despite giving up 3s, not defending the rim and fouling a lot.

Burning question: Can they become an elite playoff defense?

The Nuggets have won a playoff round in three straight seasons, have the league’s MVP and made a run to the conference finals in the 2020 bubble.
Legitimately challenging for the title is the only thing left.

The biggest obstacle to getting there is the defense
and, in particular, the playoff version of that defense. Denver ranked 12th in defensive efficiency last season and 16th the year before. That’s solid, and a lot of teams will envy that finish (hi, Portland), but the prescription for high-level playoff success is a top-10 unit that has the ability to play multiple styles.

Unfortunately,
the Nuggets were carved up by Phoenix’s guards in the second round and honestly didn’t fare much better against the Blazers in the first round; Denver won that series by blistering Portland’s lackluster D even worse.

Injuries and fatigue explain some of the problem, but the bigger looming issue is whether Denver’s personnel can max out in the postseason.
Jokic is a brilliant offensive player, but putting him in aggressive coverages, as Chris Paul showed, can leave some gaping openings. Switching him onto a small guard also is less than ideal. Most of the Nuggets’ other players are stronger on offense than defense, as well — most notably, the gaffe-prone Porter.

My comment:

It looks like the Nuggets’ defense has improved as they allowed under 100 points each of their first two games. However, if the Nuggets are still as weak as last year at defending the rim, that could work to the advantage of a big lineup like the Cavs can put on the floor.

Both Nuggets point guards are 5’10”. Between the two of them they’re averaging 15 ppg. I like the Cavs in that matchup.

In order for the Cavs to be competitive they need to play great defense on Jokic, doubling him to get the ball out of his hands, and pound the ball down low and take it to the rim. Garland, if he plays, and Rubio and Sexton need to dominate their matchups against the undersized point guards. The Cavs can’t let Will Barton get going from deep; he’s shooting 50% on 3’s so far. As a team the Nuggets are at 37.7% and they’ll be at home and well-rested.

Jokic is big but at 285 he is by no means a leaper. In fact, nobody on their team averaged one block per game last year. The Cavs should be taking it to the hole aggessively and either finishing strong or dumping it off to a big for a dunk. They should live in the paint. IMO, they don't shoot 3's well on the road so I'm all for taking it strong to the hole and hopefully getting their bigs in foul trouble.
 
In this week's Power Poll, The Athletic has the Nuggets ranked 5th.

First-impression from Week 1: What will they do with that bench unit?

We’re picking nits a little early with this Nuggets team, but there is a long-term issue at play here with their rotation. It didn’t end up hurting them in the win over the Suns because the starters were so amazing, but this bench unit could really put them in peril some nights. They were awful against Phoenix. They were less awful against San Antonio, but that’s also a lower-quality opponent. Jeff Green and JaMychal Green are quality rotation guys. PJ Dozier, Facundo Campazzo, and Austin Rivers should be capable of consistent contributions. But the bench problems we saw in the preseason have spilled over to the first week of the regular season. Maybe Bones Hyland in the mix will help some of that, but that’s asking a lot of a rookie guard. Nikola Jokic is still whipping ridiculous passes around the floor, and Michael Porter Jr.’s jumper will be better, but the starters can’t keep making up for what a bench fails to do against good teams in the postseason.


So the Nuggets have two major problems; rim protection and a weak bench. It will be interesting to see if the Cavs can exploit either or both tonight.

The Cavs are still not getting much respect, ranking 25th, despite beating the 9th ranked Hawks. By the way, Charlotte is 3-0. After beating the Cavs they beat the Nets by 16. So far the Hornets appear to be a lot better than expected.

The other team the Cavs lost to, Memphis, is 2-1, having defeated the Clippers on the road and then lost the following night to the Lakers by 3.

Absolutely a brutal schedule to start the season.
 
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I just assume hold them out. It's an 82 game season and I see no reason to rush them back on the court in Game 4.
 
From the NBA.com game preview:

Jokic had 27 points and 13 rebounds in Denver's season-opening win, and then put up 32 points, 16 rebounds and seven assists in beating San Antonio on Friday night.

Jokic has a treasure chest of moves he uses on opponents despite not being the quickest guy on the court, a trait that makes him more dangerous.

"I really think (it's) because I'm slow," he said of his ability to score in different ways. "That's the pace that fits me, and I'm comfortable in that pace.

"You can see how the league is going, everybody is so athletic, so fast. They can jump, they can go by a guy."

[I suggest having Kevin Love guard him. Jokic won't know what to do being defended by somebody as slow as he is.]

The Nuggets have started 2-0 riding Jokic's play and a strong defense. They've held both of their opponents under 100 points, and most notable was allowing Phoenix to score just 40 points in the second half of the first game.

Denver forced San Antonio into 20 turnovers, which offset its own 21 giveaways. But a theme is emerging with the Nuggets' defense, and it starts with buckling down from the start.

"We have to make sure we get back, and then once we are back, I think it's really important. Can we sit down and guard? Can we contain?" Denver coach Michael Malone said.

The defense is a collective effort, and it helps having a healthy Aaron Gordon, who can guard multiple positions.


The Cavs need to take care of the ball. Like Hollinger said, they know they can't defend the rim so their approach is to steal the ball and prevent the shot from occuring.
 
Pangos vs Campazzo should be fun
 
I'd really like to dig a veteran wing off the scrap heap. Rubio & Davis are great for the respective positions, but we need 1 more vet IMO. Matthews or Bradley would work. They don't need to play unless in a pinch. Just someone to get in everyone's ear.
 
From the NBA.com game preview:

Jokic had 27 points and 13 rebounds in Denver's season-opening win, and then put up 32 points, 16 rebounds and seven assists in beating San Antonio on Friday night.

Jokic has a treasure chest of moves he uses on opponents despite not being the quickest guy on the court, a trait that makes him more dangerous.

"I really think (it's) because I'm slow," he said of his ability to score in different ways. "That's the pace that fits me, and I'm comfortable in that pace.

"You can see how the league is going, everybody is so athletic, so fast. They can jump, they can go by a guy."

[I suggest having Kevin Love guard him. Jokic won't know what to do being defended by somebody as slow as he is.]

The Nuggets have started 2-0 riding Jokic's play and a strong defense. They've held both of their opponents under 100 points, and most notable was allowing Phoenix to score just 40 points in the second half of the first game.

Denver forced San Antonio into 20 turnovers, which offset its own 21 giveaways. But a theme is emerging with the Nuggets' defense, and it starts with buckling down from the start.

"We have to make sure we get back, and then once we are back, I think it's really important. Can we sit down and guard? Can we contain?" Denver coach Michael Malone said.

The defense is a collective effort, and it helps having a healthy Aaron Gordon, who can guard multiple positions.


The Cavs need to take care of the ball. Like Hollinger said, they know they can't defend the rim so their approach is to steal the ball and prevent the shot from occuring.

I love watching him play just because it is so different from what everyone else does.
 
I was hoping Garland returned this road trip. This is where the guys come together a little more.

Hoping like hell Garland kills Lakers like opposing PGs been doing, and he should have a good game tonight playing against a backup.
 

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