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Meanwhile, in response to the adage "It's no big deal, how does government actually effect your life," here are a number of reminders that just because it isn't raining on you, doesn't mean it isn't raining on others. Or that treating a SCOTUS seat like a sporting event ignores the monumental effect it will have on people.

I hate to single out the GOP but there is no both sides here. For a Party that says its for less government intrusion in people's lives, there seems to be an enormous number of bills to do the opposite.

It is mind-boggling that in 2020 there is a concerted effort by the GOP, in every state they control, to rollback LGBT rights despite being proven wrong at every turn (same sex marriage hasn't destroyed America, it has only made guys boring) and overwhelming support for equal rights.

@MediumBaller, you and I have talked about these things many times. What is your take on why in 2020 the GOP just won't move on? Why are these guys, across the country, wasting tax-payer dollars with these openly hateful bills, like clockwork, year after year? What do younger Republicans think @cavsfan1985? Is there a movement amongst younger Republicans against this sort of government overreach?

Why are guys like this the norm in State Houses?


“I believe the LGBTQ is the modern-day version of the Ku Klux Klan, and they don’t wear hoods,” Porterfield said. “I would not be shocked if before long, they’re out burning their rainbow flags in peoples’ yards. This is the most brutal, monstrous people in our country and the biggest threat to our democracy.”


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Tennessee Governor Says He Will Sign Anti-Gay Adoption Bill
The bill will allow faith-based foster care and adoption agencies to receive taxpayer funding even if they exclude LGBTQ families and others.

Jan. 15, 2020, 9:53 AM PST
By The Associated Press


NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee announced Tuesday that he’ll sign into law a measure that would assure continued taxpayer funding of faith-based foster care and adoption agencies even if they exclude LGBT families and others based on religious beliefs.

The GOP-controlled Senate gave the bill final passage on the first day of the 2020 legislative session after it was initially approved by the House last April. The bill was sent to the Republican governor amid warnings by critics of possible negative consequences for Tennessee’s reputation.

A handful of states to date have enacted similar legislation including Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, South Dakota, North Dakota, Virginia, Mississippi and Michigan. But Michigan agreed in settling a lawsuit to no longer turn away LGBT couples or individuals because of religious objections....

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/tennessee-governor-says-he-will-sign-anti-gay-adoption-bill-n1116266


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South Dakota Bill Would Make Trans Health Care For Minors a Felony
Doctors could face up to 10 years in prison if they prescribe puberty blockers or hormones to a transgender person under 18.

South Dakota Republicans introduced a bill this week that would make it a felony for medical professionals to provide transgender health care to minors — including the prescription of puberty blockers.

State Rep. Fred Deutsch, who represents a northeast swath of the state, introduced the bill in the Republican-dominated legislature on Tuesday, the first day of the legislative session, with more than 40 co-sponsors. He said the proposal, House Bill 1057, is a way to hit the “pause button” on an “overwhelming and life-changing” decision.*

Deutsch, a chiropractor, called these practices “dangerous” because of the psychological and physical toll they take on minors. He said the bill would not interfere with children’s ability to “socially transition,” which may include a name change or a different style of clothing to match their gender identity. The bill would not apply to intersex minors, or those with ambiguous sex characteristics.

Physicians, nurses and medical assistants are among the health care professionals who could face a Class 4 felony for providing gender-transition treatment to a minor. A Class 4 felony in South Dakota carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison....

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/south-dakota-bill-would-make-trans-health-care-minors-felony-n1117481


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Here Are the Worst Anti-LGBT Bills to Watch for in 2019
LGBT activists are watching Georgia, where the governor has indicated he would sign a “religious freedom” measure, and Texas, where a “bathroom bill” may once again materialize.

Like clockwork, anti-LGBT bills emerge every year.

Only a handful become law—like 2015’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana, North Carolina’s “bathroom bill” in 2016, and Mississippi’s infamous HB 1523 in 2017.

Last year, two states—Kansas and Oklahoma—passed laws targeting LGBT adoption, carving out room for religious child welfare agencies to deny placement with same-sex couples. Legal challenges against those laws are currently underway.

Now, at the start of 2019–with state legislatures opening for business in the coming weeks—LGBT advocates are turning their attention forward to future battles. Although they say the overall outlook is favorable compared to previous years, there are still plenty of possible pitfalls ahead, especially in Georgia, where Brian Kemp has already indicated he would sign a “religious freedom” measure, and in Texas, where lawmakers may once again try to pass a “bathroom bill” after failing to do so in 2017.

Indeed, despite the Trump administration’s stance on LGBT issues, LGBT advocates saw a string of state and local-level victories in 2018 that were driven by cultural change. There were conversion therapy bans passed in Washington State, Hawaii, Delaware, Maryland, and New Hampshire. Voters in Anchorage, Alaskaand in Massachusetts voted to protect transgender people at the ballot box. New Hampshire added gender identity to its anti-discrimination law, joining every other state in New England.

Davis told The Daily Beast that LGBT leaders “learned valuable lessons from 2018,” like how to effectively debunk the myth that transgender protections lead to an increase in restroom assaults, and that they’re ready to “hit the ground running in 2019....”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/here-are-the-worst-anti-lgbt-bills-to-watch-for-in-2019




*I really wish the GOP would stop pretending that these types of bills are designed to help anyone, or are to "protect families." There should be a Federal law that mandates that a bill must be described by its actual intent.

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Hey guys, nice break! Very happy for Bong and crew, everybody doin' well?

Anyway, Trump made promises about being a different kind of Republican that wouldn't cut Medicare or Social Security. As president he's been trying to do just that, and his new budget is a doozy.

Cuts to Medicaid: $500 BILLION
Cuts to SS: $75 BILLION

Why is that at a moment when Trump claims we have the greatest economy in history, it's so difficult for our country to take care of people? We know it's not really about the deficit when we aren't willing to audit our military budget and JUST gave a massive tax cut to help the rich some more. So why do we need to make these cuts?

THIS is class warfare. People dying of poverty or BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR GETTING SICK is class warfare. But when we talk about getting a fair share from the people who have it the easiest, then it's a problem to talk about class...

 

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Hey guys, nice break! Very happy for Bong and crew, everybody doin' well?

Anyway, Trump made promises about being a different kind of Republican that wouldn't cut Medicare or Social Security. As president he's been trying to do just that, and his new budget is a doozy.

Cuts to Medicaid: $500 BILLION
Cuts to SS: $75 BILLION

Why is that at a moment when Trump claims we have the greatest economy in history, it's so difficult for our country to take care of people? We know it's not really about the deficit when we aren't willing to audit our military budget and JUST gave a massive tax cut to help the rich some more. So why do we need to make these cuts?

THIS is class warfare. People dying of poverty or BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR GETTING SICK is class warfare. But when we talk about getting a fair share from the people who have it the easiest, then it's a problem to talk about class...

Paul Krugman summed it up best recently on Seth Meyers late night show.

Republicans want to run up the deficit via tax cuts.

Democrats want to run up the deficit via social programs.
 

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Hey guys, nice break! Very happy for Bong and crew, everybody doin' well?

Anyway, Trump made promises about being a different kind of Republican that wouldn't cut Medicare or Social Security. As president he's been trying to do just that, and his new budget is a doozy.

Cuts to Medicaid: $500 BILLION
Cuts to SS: $75 BILLION

Why is that at a moment when Trump claims we have the greatest economy in history, it's so difficult for our country to take care of people? We know it's not really about the deficit when we aren't willing to audit our military budget and JUST gave a massive tax cut to help the rich some more. So why do we need to make these cuts?

THIS is class warfare. People dying of poverty or BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR GETTING SICK is class warfare. But when we talk about getting a fair share from the people who have it the easiest, then it's a problem to talk about class...

Before we just jump into it, did you read about how the cuts were going to effect people. It sounds like it would not all effect the end user, but more the hospitals and what is paid out on prescription drugs. While I agree I am skeptical of the cuts, I would want to see more about it, and see the true impact it could cause.

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Most of the proposed changes target payments to hospitals and other providers — and that might not affect Medicare patients.
Neuman and many other researchers and analysts believe there is room to spend less without hurting recipients.
"In general, these proposals are in areas where there is evidence we pay providers too much," said Matthew Fiedler, at the Brookings Institution Center for Health Policy. "One big proposal is to make payments site-neutral. Currently, we often pay more for the same service when it's delivered in a hospital rather than in a doctor's office, even when there's no evidence the site of service makes a difference."
Two of the plans along these lines would save a combined $160 billion, according to the Health and Human Services Department.
In 2009, researchers at the Dartmouth Center for Health Policy and Clinical Practice reported that "Higher spending does not result in better quality of care, whether one looks at the technical quality and reliability of hospital or ambulatory care, or survival following such serious conditions as a heart attack or hip fracture."
It's important to note that not all of the proposed cuts land on providers.
Neuman pointed to changes in Medicare's Part D prescription drug insurance program that directly affect recipients. While one change would cap out-of-pocket costs for people with the very highest drug costs, another would expose people below that cost level to higher fees. At the end of the day, the Trump budget reduces payments for people who rely on prescription drugs by $50 billion.
Those $50 billion might be the clearest example of Medicare cuts in the Trump budget. The remaining $545 billion potentially could be absorbed by providers.
With Democrats running the House, Trump's budget has no chance of passage. That's typical for any presidential budget, and it's particularly true for this one.
As an expression of policy priorities, this budget largely resembles past efforts to control the growth of Medicare spending by targeting provider payments. We continue to rate this promise as a Compromise."

 

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I know you're all enjoying the New Hampshire festivities but.....
Now for something completely different! While being completely the same!


DEM Joy C. Springer
50.00%
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DEM Ryan D. Davis
50.00%
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This is a primary runoff for a blue seat in Arkansas...and now it's a perfect tie
 

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Hey guys, nice break! Very happy for Bong and crew, everybody doin' well?

Anyway, Trump made promises about being a different kind of Republican that wouldn't cut Medicare or Social Security. As president he's been trying to do just that, and his new budget is a doozy.

Cuts to Medicaid: $500 BILLION
Cuts to SS: $75 BILLION

Why is that at a moment when Trump claims we have the greatest economy in history, it's so difficult for our country to take care of people? We know it's not really about the deficit when we aren't willing to audit our military budget and JUST gave a massive tax cut to help the rich some more. So why do we need to make these cuts?

THIS is class warfare. People dying of poverty or BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR GETTING SICK is class warfare. But when we talk about getting a fair share from the people who have it the easiest, then it's a problem to talk about class...

unfortunately it is not just medical debt that’s an issue.

ENDING MODERN-DAY DEBTORS' PRISONS

Prison cell

Nearly two centuries ago, the United States formally abolished the incarceration of people who failed to pay off debts. Yet, recent years have witnessed the rise of modern-day debtors' prisons—the arrest and jailing of poor people for failure to pay legal debts they can never hope to afford, through criminal justice procedures that violate their most basic rights.

State and local courts have increasingly attempted to supplement their funding by charging fees to people convicted of crimes, including fees for public defenders, prosecutors, court administration, jail operation, and probation supervision. And in the face of mounting budget deficits at the state and local level, courts across the country have used aggressive tactics to collect these unpaid fines and fees, including for traffic offenses and other low-level offenses. These courts have ordered the arrest and jailing of people who fall behind on their payments, without affording any hearings to determine an individual's ability to pay or offering alternatives to payment such as community service.

In response, since 2009, the ACLU and ACLU affiliates across the country have been exposing and challenging modern-day debtors' prisons, and urging governments and courts to pursue more rational and equitable approaches to criminal justice debt.

Debtors' prisons impose devastating human costs. They lead to coercive debt collection, forcing poor people to forgo the basic necessities of life in order to avoid arrest and jailing. Debtors' prisons waste taxpayer money and resources by jailing people who may never be able to pay their debts. This imposes direct costs on the government and further destabilizes the lives of poor people struggling to pay their debts and leave the criminal justice system behind. And most troubling, debtors' prisons create a racially-skewed, two-tiered system of justice in which the poor receive harsher, longer punishments for committing the same crimes as the rich, simply because they are poor.

Ultimately, debtors' prisons are not only unfair and insensible, they are also illegal. Imprisoning someone because she cannot afford to pay court-imposed fines or fees violates the Fourteenth Amendment promises of due process and equal protection under the law.
The ACLU and ACLU affiliates are uncovering how debtors' prisons across the country undermine the criminal justice system and threaten civil rights and civil liberties. We are working in state legislatures and courts, and with judicial officials to end these practices once and for all
 

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Not sure which thread to put this in, but Trump is now openly extorting the Governor of New York for a personal favor.

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Trump recently barred New Yorkers from using Global Entry, and has now made it clear what he wants in exchange for dropping it.

And there's nothing to suggest the lawsuits are "harassment" or "unnecessary," as they already caught the criminality of his "charity" and forced him to pay up.
 

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Seems like Barr now knows he is in a no win situation like everyone probably could have told him before he took the job...



Seems super convenient too that he had been discussing reducing the sentencing guidelines for Stone the night before the Trump tweets, if that is really the case there should be a paper trail so we shall see.
 

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Not sure which thread to put this in, but Trump is now openly extorting the Governor of New York for a personal favor.

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Trump recently barred New Yorkers from using Global Entry, and has now made it clear what he wants in exchange for dropping it.

And there's nothing to suggest the lawsuits are "harassment" or "unnecessary," as they already caught the criminality of his "charity" and forced him to pay up.
Unfortunately, NY has lawsuits against the Administration as well as Trump personally. So that makes his statement ambiguous. Some will see it as referring to ALL the lawsuits while others will see him as meaning the ones against his Administration, which wouldn't be outrageous.
 

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Unfortunately, NY has lawsuits against the Administration as well as Trump personally. So that makes his statement ambiguous. Some will see it as referring to ALL the lawsuits while others will see him as meaning the ones against his Administration, which wouldn't be outrageous.
Why wouldn't it be outrageous?

Trump is negatively impacting our lives in an effort to wield power he doesn't have over the judicial branch of our government.

I can't figure out a light where those actions are appropriate.
 

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Why wouldn't it be outrageous?

Trump is negatively impacting our lives in an effort to wield power he doesn't have over the judicial branch of our government.

I can't figure out a light where those actions are appropriate.
Because it'd then be a statement about them sitting down to work on the state's relationship w/ the Union. I.e. if the state is being hostile to the Union up to and including what the Union considers frivolous lawsuits; bettering that relationship would undoubtedly be contingent upon the state cutting their shit out.
 

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Because it'd then be a statement about them sitting down to work on the state's relationship w/ the Union. I.e. if the state is being hostile to the Union up to and including what the Union considers frivolous lawsuits; bettering that relationship would undoubtedly be contingent upon the state cutting their shit out.
But there aren’t any frivolous lawsuits, Trump is just bullshitting. It’s extorting a state government for a personal favor, not ambiguous.
 

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But there aren’t any frivolous lawsuits, Trump is just bullshitting. It’s extorting a state government for a personal favor, not ambiguous.
Are you sure about that? I am not saying there is no personal gain(which I agree is wrong) but there is non personal lawsuits against the federal government. Also a big part of it is around ICE corporation.
 

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