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He showed up on the today Tressel quit driving a new Nissan 300Z
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Jim Tressel resigns
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He showed up on the today Tressel quit driving a new Nissan 300Z
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Wasn't new. Had 80,000 miles on it.
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Okay I get that there were Ncaa violations. I get that players were selling their gear. I get that there will be penalties for the university.
k with that out of the way. Theres only one way for the NCAA to fix the issue or enforce Player Memorbilia sales rules.
Prohibit players from signing anything that can be considered "memorbilia"
Theres no way to enforce the rule. Theres really now ay to tell for sure outside of eyewitness testimony whether a player signed something and sold it or a fan got it signed and sold it.
even with special items like the gold pants and rings its really hard to prove that the player themselves sold it . its easily deniable.
Now of course once something comes to light out of lets say an fbi investigation where law enforcement officer witness the act and people are more willing to suddenly report things that happened then the NCAA might actually have a case they can penalize a school for.
but overall you dont have the fbi investigating these types of transactions and the NCAA has no power to compel anyone to say anything outside of their association.
Of course the NCAA isnt going to do such a prohibition because then they would lose money. the same reason they allowed pryor and his gang to play in the sugar bowl.
The NCAA is an inherently corrupt organization maybe one day tv revenues will be big enough for a few of the superconference to break away from the NCAA and form their own athletic association with a more sensible rulebook
Pryors crime outside of being a selfish egomaniac with little regard to his teammates and rules in generl is making a profit selling his memorbilia. the same memoribilia that the NCAA has no qualms selling and collecting the profits from these same items
https://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connec...ERES&CACHEID=5fe2df804e0b96bd8c90fc1ad6fc8b25
licensing is big money and players selling their own memorbilia without any royalties for the NCAA is a crime against their pocketbook not a crime against the "integrity" of the game.
What you will see out of these sanctions and violation is something that brings the NCAA closer to some type of reform in this regards. that would be a positive.
k with that out of the way. Theres only one way for the NCAA to fix the issue or enforce Player Memorbilia sales rules.
Prohibit players from signing anything that can be considered "memorbilia"
Theres no way to enforce the rule. Theres really now ay to tell for sure outside of eyewitness testimony whether a player signed something and sold it or a fan got it signed and sold it.
even with special items like the gold pants and rings its really hard to prove that the player themselves sold it . its easily deniable.
Now of course once something comes to light out of lets say an fbi investigation where law enforcement officer witness the act and people are more willing to suddenly report things that happened then the NCAA might actually have a case they can penalize a school for.
but overall you dont have the fbi investigating these types of transactions and the NCAA has no power to compel anyone to say anything outside of their association.
Of course the NCAA isnt going to do such a prohibition because then they would lose money. the same reason they allowed pryor and his gang to play in the sugar bowl.
The NCAA is an inherently corrupt organization maybe one day tv revenues will be big enough for a few of the superconference to break away from the NCAA and form their own athletic association with a more sensible rulebook
Pryors crime outside of being a selfish egomaniac with little regard to his teammates and rules in generl is making a profit selling his memorbilia. the same memoribilia that the NCAA has no qualms selling and collecting the profits from these same items
https://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connec...ERES&CACHEID=5fe2df804e0b96bd8c90fc1ad6fc8b25
licensing is big money and players selling their own memorbilia without any royalties for the NCAA is a crime against their pocketbook not a crime against the "integrity" of the game.
What you will see out of these sanctions and violation is something that brings the NCAA closer to some type of reform in this regards. that would be a positive.
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Tressel is serving a 6 game suspension before he takes his consultant NFL job. Once again Tressel goes above and beyond to make things right. Personally though it was OSU who didnt allow him to serve out his suspension and the penalty was way more severe than the 2 game suspension with fine the NCAA had assessed as appropiate.
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Roger Goodell said that he would have suspended Tressel, even if the Colts hadn't.
So, when can we expect the same punishment from Pete Carroll? Or is it not the same because he skipped town BEFORE all the sanctions and violations came to light?
So, when can we expect the same punishment from Pete Carroll? Or is it not the same because he skipped town BEFORE all the sanctions and violations came to light?
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I get what the NFL is trying to do with Pryor and Tressel, but I also 100% agree with you on Carroll and the hypocrisy. Its not that I think Tressell should escape punishment, but it is bullshit that Carroll and others do escape.
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how is one escaping punishment if you go from making millions to a job thats practically charity work in comparison.
Whats really funny is both Tressel and Pryor were willing to serve their penalties. pryor could of very well declared for the draft and not faced any penalties and Tressel could of fought everything and stood a good chance of prevailing in court.
Whats really funny is both Tressel and Pryor were willing to serve their penalties. pryor could of very well declared for the draft and not faced any penalties and Tressel could of fought everything and stood a good chance of prevailing in court.
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Pryor should have declared on time, the hand writing was very much on the wall, and I dont think the mistakes he made were that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Tressell is another story. The NCAA would have forced OSU's hand. He lied to them and they coem down like the wrath of G-d when this happens and the coach is not dismissed. I saw first hand at Purdue what Gene Keady went through with one of his assistants he tried to stand by (was a huge insider there during the 90's). The violations were extremely minor, 5 total, but things got ugly until Keady let his assistant go. When the NCAA wants someone gone, there is almost no choice the university can make.