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My hope is that with better players he'll feel more comfortable utilizing different coverages and expanding on our playbook. We absolutely have to account for what he worked with last year, but he's still open to criticism.

This is exactly where I'm at. I hated the prevent defense as well, but I understood why he was doing it. Once the Browns built a sizeable lead, they needed the offense to eat the clock. When they didn't accomplish that, the defense had to eat the clock. They could not expose how bad we were with about half the players on the field in a given drive.


The Raiders ran all over us in a hurricane and it took until the 4th quarter before we even put 8 in the box.

I really just wanted to point out that only Clevelanders consider Lake Effect as "Hurricane Conditions." My California wife would call me on that hard... but know what? I've been in storms on the coast and ran through surprise storms off Edgewater Park and there aren't many differences!
 

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This is exactly where I'm at. I hated the prevent defense as well, but I understood why he was doing it. Once the Browns built a sizeable lead, they needed the offense to eat the clock. When they didn't accomplish that, the defense had to eat the clock. They could not expose how bad we were with about half the players on the field in a given drive.




I really just wanted to point out that only Clevelanders consider Lake Effect as "Hurricane Conditions." My California wife would call me on that hard... but know what? I've been in storms on the coast and ran through surprise storms off Edgewater Park and there aren't many differences!

Ever been in a hurricane in New Orleans. I will call out your California wife tat California doesnt get Hurricane conditions, but Cleveland doesnt eiter. But it isnt a contest, but the weater does suck in Cleveland.
 

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California??!!? We get like nice soft cool breezes and occasional drizzles. Traffic. Traffic is what we have.
 

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I've been through Irma, Ivan twice, Wilma, Francis, Charley, and probably a few others too drunk to recall, but the craziest shit I ever saw was in Jackson Wyoming. Never thought I was about to die in a hurricane, but twice in the Tetons, I thought I was done for. You could see it coming like a black cloudy mist, and then wham, all hell breaks loose
 

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I've been knocked off my feet by 106 mph winds in Montana, does that count as hurricane force wind?
 

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California??!!? We get like nice soft cool breezes and occasional drizzles. Traffic. Traffic is what we have.

Don't you live in Smell-A? It can get a little more harsh further north. Coastal Washington definitely deals with worse than I get, but I've seen some real storms.
 

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Don't you live in Smell-A? It can get a little more harsh further north. Coastal Washington definitely deals with worse than I get, but I've seen some real storms.
I’ve spent a lot of time in many parts of California and it’s never worse than any time I go to a browns game in Cleveland.
 

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“We want to be a fast, aggressive team,” Woods said. “We want to be able to take away the ball. We really want to dictate the way the game is played. I want to be aggressive with our game planning, aggressive in terms of getting after the quarterback with blitz packages and not really worry about what (the opponent is) doing. Make them worry about what we are doing, that is the hope.”
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The lack of playmaking at safety was a major issue last season, and injury issues across the secondary forced Woods to sit back in more zone coverage than he wanted to. The Browns were quick to commit to Johnson because he fits the team’s aggressive mindset.
“John is a great leader,” Woods said. “We brought in guys who are very professional and who have been leaders on teams that they have been on. That is John in the secondary. If you look at the linebacker position, (that’s) Anthony Walker, and on the line, it’s Malik Jackson. I had Malik in Denver. Those guys have been great additions to our team, and they are doing a great job.”
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The upgraded talent should allow Woods to get to more of the groups he wants to play, too, rather than personnel packages he feels he has to play.
A true three-safety personnel package — what Woods calls the “big dime” — might have to wait until Grant Delpit catches up .... it’s hard to imagine the Browns using Delpit in Kansas City
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All indications are that Newsome will start at right cornerback over Williams and that Hill will be the top slot cornerback.
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The basics are the same. The Browns want Garrett to change games. They want to make quarterbacks uncomfortable and limit big plays while maintaining an aggressive mindset
“It can definitely look different (from week to week),” Woods said. “We do not want to get outside of what we do, but we will be able to move the pieces around (in) creating matchups. There are different fronts that we are trying to get certain (pass) protections where we can create matchups or do what we do without giving it away. It will look differently slightly week to week, but it is all going to be within the concept of our defensive scheme.”

 

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I like what I see from Newsome. I know he gave up several catches in the preseason but he was on soft coverage for some, and others he was glued on the WR who just made a great play. Nothing huge or ridiculous, unless you want to count the Marvin Jones catch which was mostly because the d-line gave Lawrence too much time.

I get that he wasn't "elite" by any means but as a rookie CB, he wasn't bad at all. Add on the fact that he has played very well in camp, causing several turnovers and not getting beat the way Greedy was (DPJ was eating Greedy up all camp), and I'd say we might have a gem here, boyos. He'll only get better.

Pay Ward if we can (hate that Rosenhaus is his agent now) and I believe our outside CB spots might be solid for the next 4 years.
 

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Defensive line

Myles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney both registered a sack this afternoon. Garrett’s 68.0 pass-rushing grade featured three hits and four hurries, but three of those pressures were unblocked. Clowney’s 60.0 pass-rushing grade included four total hurries.

Linebackers

Anthony Walker and Mack Wilson filled the gaps and made sound plays in run defense to neutralize Kansas City’s ground game. However, it was a different story in coverage, as they both struggled to cover Hill and Kelce in the middle of the field.

Secondary

Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams and Greg Newsome II all had tough days in coverage versus Kansas City. Williams earned a grade of just 31.5 in coverage, while Ward cracked 64.0 and Newsome recorded a 67.3. The latter two players will be expected to be Cleveland's best corners throughout the season. Unfortunately, today just wasn't their best day.
 

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Linebackers

Anthony Walker and Mack Wilson filled the gaps and made sound plays in run defense to neutralize Kansas City’s ground game. However, it was a different story in coverage, as they both struggled to cover Hill and Kelce in the middle of the field.


Linebackers were especially rough on those zone downs. It looked like a few times on 3rd down we had the perfect zone call but the LB's failed to get enough depth, allowing an easy throw for Mahomes in to a soft spot.

Was always frustrating to see a replay where we have an LB positioned right in to the area where the route is developing but the player just wasn't executing their drop.
 

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How much improvement do people realistically expect in week one with so many new defensive starters playing against one of the NFL's best offenses? That's doubly true considering that we kept most of our starters in bubble wrap the entire preseason.

Week one was always going to be tough.
 

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How much improvement do people realistically expect in week one with so many new defensive starters playing against one of the NFL's best offenses? That's doubly true considering that we kept most of our starters in bubble wrap the entire preseason.

Week one was always going to be tough.

It's hard for some people to imagine a complex chain of events leading to a poor result when scapegoating one person is easier.

Scapegoating the guy you wanted to scapegoat for a month is also preferable than scapegoating the damn punter. Fuck that guy.
 
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