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John-Blair Bickerstaff: Former Cavaliers Head Coach

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How Would You Grade JBB's Tenure in Cleveland

  • A

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • B

    Votes: 16 43.2%
  • C

    Votes: 9 24.3%
  • D

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • F

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • INC

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Craig Porter Jr. -DNP Coach's Decision

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • Total voters
    37
We've played 73 games. There are nine left. I'd be very interested in knowing what the +/- of everyone's favorite rotation guy is who would totes make a difference if he only played more.
 
We've played 73 games. There are nine left. I'd be very interested in knowing what the +/- of everyone's favorite rotation guy is who would totes make a difference if he only played more.

You're not interested in knowing any of that judging by the tone of the post.
 
We've played 73 games. There are nine left. I'd be very interested in knowing what the +/- of everyone's favorite rotation guy is who would totes make a difference if he only played more.
I think I know what you are getting at here...we need more RJ Nembhard action
 
Or, I already know and I'm encouraging people to look.

Are you seriously intimating that you know what the outcome of an alternate universe game that would be played under theoretical circumstances?

All based on looking at on/off numbers?

That's ridiculous.

You know on/off numbers. That's it. They can neither prove nor disprove that a game would have been won or lost had circumstances been different.

Your argument seems to be that because certain players are negative +/- players, that playing them more minutes wouldn't lead to any different result.

There are so many issues with this.

1. Basketball is more than looking at a stat sheet.

2. No coach has the luxury of playing only net positive players. If they did, coaching would be extremely easy.

3. They, many times, lack context. For instance, I know that Brandon Goodwin was -13 in only 6 minutes against the Lakers. I also know if I were to breakdown each play during those 6 minutes, I'd see Brandon Goodwin playing very solid basketball more often than not. But sometimes playing well doesn't result in, well, results. It's a team sport, after all.

4. There's things beyond his own contributions on the court that we're talking about here. We're talking about buying Darius Garland more time to rest when it's obvious to anyone watching he's wearing down at the end of games. We're talking about moving LeVert to his actual, natural position putting him in the best position to succeed.

5. The most important: No one else is arguing that by making rotational changes the results would be different. Because that is an impossible argument to make. It's unprovable. As is arguing they'd make no difference at all.


Instead, the actual argument is this: Is John Blair Bickerstaff currently putting his team in the best position to win with his rotational choices, both in the present and in the future?

I say no. He's wearing down his best offensive player and he's not properly utilizing LeVert and forcing him into a role he's simply not suited for. Playing Goodwin more minutes solves these issues.


So then the question on Goodwin isn't whether or not he's a good player. If the measurement of being a good player is being an above average NBA player vs. a below average one, he's below average.

But every coach has to play below average guys. We do it with Osman and Stevens and Okoro.

The question is whether or not Goodwin can give the team, in its present state, enough output that whatever negatives he has is worth it to both rest Garland and allow LeVert to play his natural role.

And to that, I say the answer is yes. We've seen the team win, multiple times, playing Goodwin large minutes. He's a passable NBA point guard, even if not a good one. Playing him more minutes than he's been getting lately will result in a better team with a better chance to win more often than not.
 
Probably going to finish out the season, but we need to get a real coach here. Someone who actually understands systems and adjusts.
 
Every post game, the same shit.

"Toughness, learning moment" bullshit.


What about him? Is he learning anything? Is he being taught anything?

My guy acts like he's been there, done that, and last time I checked he has one winning season logged in 4. 3 games over .500.

When is he gonna take some of the blame and admit "yea, the offense isn't really clicking and we aren't getting guys easy looks and that's on us."
 
JBB is a pretty old fashioned coach right? I know he had a rep for not looking at metrics before he came here.

For a guy this young, why does our offense look like something from the mid 00s. Why do we take 3s like a team from the fucking 90s. We have some legit pieces. This team SHOULD be a top 15 offense. Our scheme is just fucking tragic. I think Kidd would do a better job
 
And yet again Darius Garland is getting tired and wearing down and it's obvious to anyone watching the game and he just continues to pile on the huge minutes. 44 or something stupid tonight.

Just bad coaching. Ride your best offensive player into the ground and then, in the post game, act like toughness and inexperience from the players is the only reason you lost the game. Nothing else at play here.
 
This guy...



They didnt get punched in the mouth. They got ran over by Chicagos team bus...except JBB pushed them all out into the middle of the street as the bus was coming at them full speed.
 
Ya know, I wondered why he wasn't given more time in his two prior stops.

Took over after McHale got fired, and in his one season went 37-34 and made the playoffs! Fired.


Then took over after Fizdale was fired mid-season in Memphis and in his next, first full season had a big W-L improvement! Fired.


Why wasn't he given more time given the improvement?


And then you watch this season and it all just slaps you in the face. Obviously they were dealing with this same shit. They were looking at there and seeing absolutely no offensive system whatsoever, no defensive adjustments, and, I'm guessing, riding his best players into the dirt when he didn't have to.
 
Ya know, I wondered why he wasn't given more time in his two prior stops.

Took over after McHale got fired, and in his one season went 37-34 and made the playoffs! Fired.


Then took over after Fizdale was fired mid-season in Memphis and in his next, first full season had a big W-L improvement! Fired.


Why wasn't he given more time given the improvement?


And then you watch this season and it all just slaps you in the face. Obviously they were dealing with this same shit. They were looking at there and seeing absolutely no offensive system whatsoever, no defensive adjustments, and, I'm guessing, riding his best players into the dirt when he didn't have to.

Yup. He's exceeded all expectations, but he's not the guy who is going to get this team to the next level. I just can't understand the team's push to sign him to a long term deal so quickly. It feels so desperate and now we're stuck paying him for years.
 

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