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Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

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Is Kevin Love a Hero for Saving a Dog?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 48.3%
  • Too Right!

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Hotter than Jimmy G

    Votes: 15 25.9%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Total voters
    58
A benefit of Kevin Love is that just by being a big who is a shooter he will free up some room on the inside for Mobley to operate.

May be a lot easier for Mobley to learn the ropes when the paint is less crowded -- compared to being paired with Allen, which will push a second defender inside.
 
A benefit of Kevin Love is that just by being a big who is a shooter he will free up some room on the inside for Mobley to operate.

May be a lot easier for Mobley to learn the ropes when the paint is less crowded -- compared to being paired with Allen, which will push a second defender inside.

Allen and Mobley will be our starters. Bigs dont usually even play 30 mins, although although Allen played 30.3 for us last year.

Love will backup pf/c for 20 mins a game for the 18 games he is healthy and collect more per a game than most of us make in a lifetime.

Thinking he will get bought out before the trade deadline of his final year is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Thinking Love will be anything more than a part time part time player (ie backup who plays half the games is lucky) is setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
Let's look at some playoff roster third bigs in 2021...

Milwaukee won it all with Bobby Portis as third big.

Atlanta used Gallinari as the third big to stretch the floor.

Celtics split minutes between Robert Williams (young and rising) and Jabari Parker.

Sixers rolled out what's left of Dwight Howard, Washington countered with what's left of Robin Lopez.


Seems like a big who is past his prime is pretty standard stuff for a third big in a lower-level playoff team.

I don't see the angle where Love isn't good enough for this role... it's more likely that people rattling off on Twitter just don't understand the type of player who gets this type of role.
 
A benefit of Kevin Love is that just by being a big who is a shooter he will free up some room on the inside for Mobley to operate.

May be a lot easier for Mobley to learn the ropes when the paint is less crowded -- compared to being paired with Allen, which will push a second defender inside.
Not exactly sure how he'll do that from the bench, trainers room or his living room couch :chuckle:
 
Not exactly sure how he'll do that from the bench, trainers room or his living room couch :chuckle:
From his gravitational pull.

<<insert picture of fat Kevin Love as a planet with his own moon>>

Sorry Key’s everyone is too frustrated to join the Kevin Love life raft. Hopefully you will be right in the end because it would benefit the Cavs the most if you were.
 
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Just read that Kemba gave back $20 million in his buyout. Hopefully we can convince Love to give back 10

$30M. Kemba is still a good player, when healthy. Love is a JAG when healthy. If good players are giving back money to be free, then shitty players should have to give up more.
 
Just read that Kemba gave back $20 million in his buyout. Hopefully we can convince Love to give back 10
So factoring in the $16 mil Kemba is getting from the Knicks over the next two seasons, he gave up $4 mil to forego the final two years of his contract.

Blake Griffin actually gave back $13.3 mil to forego the last 1.5 years of his contract with Detroit and will get less than $5 mil from the Nets over that span, so he actually gave up $8 to $9 mil for his freedom.

Those two probably represent just about the entire sample size of multi year buyouts in the NBA. Given the vet min that he can get over two years is over $5 mil, and that I think he's worth more than that to some teams, I don't think it's a stretch at all for him to give back $10 mil to the Cavs to be bought out. I'd be extremely disappointed if we couldn't agree on a figure around there.
 
love might not want to give money back as he knows he's too shot to be able to play again for another team
 
I agree with Keys. Kevin Love still has some rotational value if he wants to accept it. Since we are paying such a premium, it would really benefit us if Koby, Patterson and the "player-psyche-coaches" on the staff with experience whispering in Kevin's ear spent some time selling him on this new role.

Someone above joked about gravitational pull but the joke is, he really has that in respect and ability still. He's earned it from his production and experience, and we should carve a role where it benefits our kiddie core for the next 2 seasons.

Korver had gravity against a defense even as he started declining simply because of his reputation and experience in the league. You still wanted a 37 yr old Korver who had "declined" to a 36-38% stand still shooter at game speed with his slower release and geriatric knees from a 46-48% knockdown shooter in his prime because defensive players and rotations were respecting his decade plus in the league. And that was with really quick 2's and 3's closing out on him.

Even at his compromised calf state, Kevin Love is still Ryan Anderson or Davis Bertans with a "pump fake and offensive IQ rating of 99 on 2k"; effective as a reputational shooter who 4's and 5's will have to stick with in any defensive scheme. A defensive lane de-clogger if the coaching staff is creative enough to draw his 20 minutes up as such, rotationally.

The work needs to be done now, similar to LeBron whispering in his ear pool-side.

In a way, Mobley being drafted and clearly taking priority developmentally over Love reclaiming his past prime, offers Love cover to take a lesser role while still getting those checks and accept mentoring and contributing through spot production and influencing Mobley development.

It's up to our coaches and player management executives to sell this vision/purpose/cause to him. But just like last year when he finally took the court, his gravity against a half court defense is undeniable if we can just get him bought in and owning the diminished role.
 
I agree with Keys. Kevin Love still has some rotational value if he wants to accept it. Since we are paying such a premium, it would really benefit us if Koby, Patterson and the "player-psyche-coaches" on the staff with experience whispering in Kevin's ear spent some time selling him on this new role.

Someone above joked about gravitational pull but the joke is, he really has that in respect and ability still. He's earned it from his production and experience, and we should carve a role where it benefits our kiddie core for the next 2 seasons.

Korver had gravity against a defense even as he started declining simply because of his reputation and experience in the league. You still wanted a 37 yr old Korver who had "declined" to a 36-38% stand still shooter at game speed with his slower release and geriatric knees from a 46-48% knockdown shooter in his prime because defensive players and rotations were respecting his decade plus in the league. And that was with really quick 2's and 3's closing out on him.

Even at his compromised calf state, Kevin Love is still Ryan Anderson or Davis Bertans with a "pump fake and offensive IQ rating of 99 on 2k"; effective as a reputational shooter who 4's and 5's will have to stick with in any defensive scheme. A defensive lane de-clogger if the coaching staff is creative enough to draw his 20 minutes up as such, rotationally.

The work needs to be done now, similar to LeBron whispering in his ear pool-side.

In a way, Mobley being drafted and clearly taking priority developmentally over Love reclaiming his past prime, offers Love cover to take a lesser role while still getting those checks and accept mentoring and contributing through spot production and influencing Mobley development.

It's up to our coaches and player management executives to sell this vision/purpose/cause to him. But just like last year when he finally took the court, his gravity against a half court defense is undeniable if we can just get him bought in and owning the diminished role.

Has he done anything to imply he'd accept a diminished role?
 
Has he done anything to imply he'd accept a diminished role?

He got cut from the end of the bench role in the Olympics. Not playing doesn't do anything except make people think he should retire.

Love and Nance are one of our best pairings. Sell him on that. Rubio won't forget him, maybe getting the ball where he likes will rejuvenate him.

He needs fewer minutes, but he can be surrounded by vets and good playmakers in Nance and Rubio and beat up on 2nd units.
 

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