Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[Ohioplayer00]

Did he accept an invite, or invite himself?

You can’t invite yourself to the Olympics! You have to be extended an invite….

 

[Futuredome]

Because the Olympics is not the NBA. He doesn't want to play 70 games anymore. Guys is physically and mentally toast. He just wants his money and the Cavs will for 1 more year, give it to him for free. Then the party ends.

 

[adam81king]

You can’t invite yourself to the Olympics! You have to be extended an invite….

Jerry Colangelo said different...

 

[Randolphkeys]

I dunno. Portland is essentially a third world country at this point. I wouldn't go there for anything.

Look up the average home price in Portland, Oregon and then check the stats in Cleveland. Your glass house must be comfy as fuck, bro.

Anyways, back to Love.

If his heart is into it then when did he come into camp completely out of shape

There was once a good reason why Love took the off-season completely off. The Cavs played into June four seasons in a row.

I've mentioned this up thread, but just about everyone from that 2015-2018 run is washed... Golden State players included. Draymond and Steph have moments, but they have been missing the playoffs for two years because of wear and tear. Love's body may have held up better if he continues hitting the gym in the summer or... this is just what happens to a guy who played so many games.

 

[CavsKermit]

I think we're at the point where Kevin needs to at least get on the court and give some productive minutes off the bench in order to get a contender to commit a roster spot to him.

In any event, there's no way the Cavs should wave him and pay him $60M to play for another team. In terms of games actually played, he's been the highest paid player in NBA over the course of his extension. If Schwartz wants to threaten the F.O. with keeping his other clients away from the Cavs, after Drummond and Love, he's doing us a favor as far as I'm concerned. This is absurd.

I do still think that a buyout is likely after the next deadline. He'll have been paid most of his salary for this season at that point, he'll get two post seasons out of one buyout, and due to the prorata rules, most of the money will come off of the amount owed his last year.

 

[pr26]

I dunno. Portland is essentially a third world country at this point. I wouldn't go there for anything.

Recently moved here and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve made in my entire life. Fantastic city with plenty to do and lots of nature to enjoy, and frankly a very chill vibe. Working-class vibe too in lots of my fav neighborhoods.

If Portland is a third world country to you, than you either have a very very privileged existence in the Malibu hills or something, or you’re watching too much cable news.

 

[Ohioplayer00]

I think we're at the point where Kevin needs to at least get on the court and give some productive minutes off the bench in order to get a contender to commit a roster spot to him.

In any event, there's no way the Cavs should wave him and pay him $60M to play for another team. In terms of games actually played, he's been the highest paid player in NBA over the course of his extension. If Schwartz wants to threaten the F.O. with keeping his other clients away from the Cavs, after Drummond and Love, he's doing us a favor as far as I'm concerned. This is absurd.

I do still think that a buyout is likely after the next deadline. He'll have been paid most of his salary for this season at that point, he'll get two post seasons out of one buyout, and due to the prorata rules, most of the money will come off of the amount owed his last year.

If you make him do everything team related (walkthroughs, film sessions, meeting with trainers etc) and then every game park his ass at the end of the bench and only give him 2-3 minutes of just garbage time every other game……he and his agent will be kicking in Koby’s office door asking for a buyout.

 

[Marcus]

First, I'll say this:

Portland's weird, but in a good way. If you're thinking it's some kind of scummy hell hole, you've either never been there, or you wipe your ass with gold toilet paper and everywhere seems shitty (no pun intended) in comparison.

I mean, it's probably the most dog-friendly city in the country. That alone makes it awesome.

Second:

Literally nobody actually wants to talk politics in a forum dedicated to Cavs basketball. Please direct that talk to the appropriate section or keep it to yourself.

Thanks!

 

[2 For The Brew]

He should just retire.

Has there been such a bad ending for a champion All-NBA caliber player?

There have been injuries, bad fits, substance abuse and freak accidents ending careers.

But has there recently been an example of such a player quitting the game without retiring while bilking his team for the max?

Gilbert Arenas had a disgraceful end to his career.

Shawn Kemp got fat.

 

[buzzdog]

I'm of a mind to take a wait and see approach with the KLove situation. I think it can go any number of ways. I'll hope for the best.

 

[buzzdog]

I'll reiterate a point I made a few months ago. Say whatever you want to say about Kevin Love. BUT he is without a doubt one of the best technicians in the league when it comes to boxing out and getting position for rebounds. He has never been the longest, the strongest, or any kind of a jumper. He gets boards by being smart about his position, his center of gravity. He gets boards by being smart about it and by expending effort at just the right moments.

We have some physically talented bigs who seem to lack fundamental skills when it comes to boxing out and getting into position for rebounds, and if Love can in any way, shape or form mentor those guys and improve their rebounding even by a notch to two, he'll be worth his weight in gold. Not worth what he's been getting paid by any means, but he could definitely add some value.

 

[Sebastian]

Gilbert Arenas had a disgraceful end to his career.

Shawn Kemp got fat.

Certainly physical decline gets most guys.

But this is not really that... unless Love suffers from rare forms of strains that behave like tears.

 

[cabs]

If he doesnt want a buy out then make him earn the 30mil by being the back up Center and take an absolute beating

 

[KevinLoveFan]

I'll reiterate a point I made a few months ago. Say whatever you want to say about Kevin Love. BUT he is without a doubt one of the best technicians in the league when it comes to boxing out and getting position for rebounds. He has never been the longest, the strongest, or any kind of a jumper. He gets boards by being smart about his position, his center of gravity. He gets boards by being smart about it and by expending effort at just the right moments.

We have some physically talented bigs who seem to lack fundamental skills when it comes to boxing out and getting into position for rebounds, and if Love can in any way, shape or form mentor those guys and improve their rebounding even by a notch to two, he'll be worth his weight in gold. Not worth what he's been getting paid by any means, but he could definitely add some value.

Steve Kerr said recently that boxing out is a lost skill in the league. With Markkanen's drop-off in rebounding, maybe Love can help him with that. Since he's going to stay around, it will be imperative for him to work with the new young bigs. At the very least, he can teach them some tactics. Love may never lead a team well, but one hopes he can model skills for guys who play PF and C.

 

[buzzdog]

Steve Kerr said recently that boxing out is a lost skill in the league. With Markkanen's drop-off in rebounding, maybe Love can help him with that. Since he's going to stay around, it will be imperative for him to work with the new young bigs. At the very least, he can teach them some tactics. Love may never lead a team well, but one hopes he can model skills for guys who play PF and C.

Hopefully this happens. Plus boxing out should not be an individual thing, it has a team-work component if teams are doing it right. Get your three front line guys sealing off the paint together on a regular basis and everybody's numbers go up.