Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[Derek]

Listening to cavs podcast today and they said no question Kevin loves jersey is retired. what, why? Come on now. No one except lebron deserves their jersey retired. He'd have to play here 10 more years for me to even consider.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but based on the jerseys already retired, it’d be shocking if Love’s didn’t get retired.

 

[B Mac]

Yea this one's a no brainer. He should actually end up being the first of the championship squad to get his retired.

He'll be top 10 in points, rebounds, free throws, 3 pointers (he might end up being #1 here), etc.. but most importantly he was one of the best players on our only championship team.

Randolph hit this right on the end. The fan backlash from a select group should have no impact on the outcome of him getting the jersey retirement he deserves.

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking he's around 6th or 7th on the list of all time Cavaliers.

 

[Cavatt]

I clicked on this thread and saw the first page saying Love had been traded lol.

 

[foucault87]

Yea this one's a no brainer. He should actually end up being the first of the championship squad to get his retired.

He'll be top 10 in points, rebounds, free throws, 3 pointers (he might end up being #1 here), etc.. but most importantly he was one of the best players on our only championship team.

Randolph hit this right on the end. The fan backlash from a select group should have no impact on the outcome of him getting the jersey retirement he deserves.

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking he's around 6th or 7th on the list of all time Cavaliers.

9th all time in winshares. Surprised TT was higher tbh.

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[B Mac]

9th all time in winshares. Surprised TT was higher tbh.

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Not long ago I had a not so popular opinion that had Tristan as a top 10 franchise player of all time. I'm not sure why I never though to look up this stat to back my claim.

 

[foucault87]

Not long ago I had a not so popular opinion that had Tristan as a top 10 franchise player of all time. I'm not sure why I never though to look up this stat to back my claim.

Its mostly on his game count. The Cavs have had surpisngly few players play 500+ games for how long they've been around

 

[Douglar]

Cavaliers rumors: Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Love, Caris LeVert, Ricky Rubio, LeBron James

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Fedor: There’s a benefit to the Cavaliers to keeping Love and letting his salary come off the books and naturally clean up their salary cap sheet rather than taking on another big salary player.​

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Scotto: I think, ultimately, I’m in agreement with you on that. I think if you can bring him back at a relatively fair market value, I’m just curious what that’s going to be.​

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Fedor: Do you think the mid-level is about right?​

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Scotto: I think that’s fair. I say that because he’s an older guy, and a team with cap space isn’t necessarily going to break the bank for him. He’d be better on a playoff-caliber team. He’s not going to go to a rebuilding team.​

 

[Cavatt]

Cavaliers rumors: Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Love, Caris LeVert, Ricky Rubio, LeBron James

HoopsHype’s Michael Scotto and Cavaliers beat writer Chris Fedor share behind-the-scenes intel on the Donovan Mitchell trade. Plus, updates on extension talks for Caris LeVert, Kevin Love’s future,…

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Fedor: There’s a benefit to the Cavaliers to keeping Love and letting his salary come off the books and naturally clean up their salary cap sheet rather than taking on another big salary player.​

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Scotto: I think, ultimately, I’m in agreement with you on that. I think if you can bring him back at a relatively fair market value, I’m just curious what that’s going to be.​

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Fedor: Do you think the mid-level is about right?​

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Scotto: I think that’s fair. I say that because he’s an older guy, and a team with cap space isn’t necessarily going to break the bank for him. He’d be better on a playoff-caliber team. He’s not going to go to a rebuilding team.​

~10M was my first thought as well. Is that too much? I guess not if he has another year like last year.

 

[guitarguy]

Probably depends a lot on how healthy he is this year.

 

[Cavatt]

Probably depends a lot on how healthy he is this year.

I have no doubt the rest helped him immensely. Once Mobley and Allen went down at the end of the year, his productivity felt like it plummeted. Just playing a few min more wiped him out. Keeping his minutes low are crucial.

 

[Dr No]

I have no doubt the rest helped him immensely. Once Mobley and Allen went down at the end of the year, his productivity felt like it plummeted. Just playing a few min more wiped him out. Keeping his minutes low are crucial.

Kevin is in the diminishing returns portion of his career. The chances of him being as good or as healthy as he was last year are not great.

 

[JayP146]

Kevin is in the diminishing returns portion of his career. The chances of him being as good or as healthy as he was last year are not great.

I mean, weren't we all saying the same thing before last season? He surprised pretty much everyone with how well he played in '21/'22 ...

 

[Dr No]

I mean, weren't we all saying the same thing before last season? He surprised pretty much everyone with how well he played in '21/'22 ...

For sure. He blew away expectations. But we also backed his minutes down and let him go against second units. He was about as good as he could be last year. It’s unlikely that age and injury history treats him that well twice. My hope is his decline is very small, but I expect a decline either through a slip in production or being slowed by injury

 

[Cavatt]

For sure. He blew away expectations. But we also backed his minutes down and let him go against second units. He was about as good as he could be last year. It’s unlikely that age and injury history treats him that well twice. My hope is his decline is very small, but I expect a decline either through a slip in production or being slowed by injury

I think playing against second units which have smaller and weaker players is part of it. He was rarely tangling with Starting centers.

 

[weepinwillow]

Listening to cavs podcast today and they said no question Kevin loves jersey is retired. what, why? Come on now. No one except lebron deserves their jersey retired. He'd have to play here 10 more years for me to even consider.

this is a solid case for unretiring Cavs numbers and then only having honorary names in the circle sort of thing.. like maybe only Price from the 90's, only Carr from the Miracle team, only LeBron and only Mobley (when it happens).

Everyone else gets to be on a ring of honor with Big Z and Moondog.