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Today I was hearing an argument for an NFL player from the 1980s to be elected to the Hall of Fame. The argument becomes a slippery slope stance of, "Well, they can't let EVERYONE in the Hall of Fame." For quite some time, I just thought of all the HOF as a subjective waste of time.

Then I thought, what if all these Halls of Fame could involve fans to kick somebody out. We all know there are a few who sneak in who are worse than people we really like. So to make all HOFs more interesting, who would you vote out of a Hall of Fame in a ceremony that strips them of their dignity?

Here's who I came up with:

Pro Football Hall of Fame: Remove Bob Griese. He is 75th all time in passing yards in NFL history and 54th all time in passing touchdowns. Eight or nine of his contemporaries had better numbers. He was a game manager for a great coach in Don Shula, that's it.

Basketball Hall of Fame: Remove Bill Bradley. Okay, he was a white guy from Princeton and he ended up a successful politician. He also was statistically the third or fourth best player on his team almost his entire career. He went to one All Star game. But of course, he was a former Knick. Strip this man of his awards.

Baseball Hall of Fame: Remove Harold Baines. So annoying when that one was announced, right? He went to a handful of All Star games for a mediocre team. He played DH half of his career. Watching the American League every summer in his prime, at no point did I ever think, "Wow, I'm watching a legend of the game." I usually thought, "Well, he's a useful hitter considering he is stuck in Chicago."

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: Remove Laura Nyro. There are so many ways this one can go, but I looked up her body of work and frankly, it's average. Name your favorite Nyro banger. I know the HOF was freaking out that they didn't have enough women representing Rock... but there are such better ways to diversify than just grabbing some random hippie chick who had no hits.

Go ahead... kick somebody out of a Hall of Fame and explain why.
 
Today I was hearing an argument for an NFL player from the 1980s to be elected to the Hall of Fame. The argument becomes a slippery slope stance of, "Well, they can't let EVERYONE in the Hall of Fame." For quite some time, I just thought of all the HOF as a subjective waste of time.

Then I thought, what if all these Halls of Fame could involve fans to kick somebody out. We all know there are a few who sneak in who are worse than people we really like. So to make all HOFs more interesting, who would you vote out of a Hall of Fame in a ceremony that strips them of their dignity?

Here's who I came up with:

Pro Football Hall of Fame: Remove Bob Griese. He is 75th all time in passing yards in NFL history and 54th all time in passing touchdowns. Eight or nine of his contemporaries had better numbers. He was a game manager for a great coach in Don Shula, that's it.

Basketball Hall of Fame: Remove Bill Bradley. Okay, he was a white guy from Princeton and he ended up a successful politician. He also was statistically the third or fourth best player on his team almost his entire career. He went to one All Star game. But of course, he was a former Knick. Strip this man of his awards.

Baseball Hall of Fame: Remove Harold Baines. So annoying when that one was announced, right? He went to a handful of All Star games for a mediocre team. He played DH half of his career. Watching the American League every summer in his prime, at no point did I ever think, "Wow, I'm watching a legend of the game." I usually thought, "Well, he's a useful hitter considering he is stuck in Chicago."

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: Remove Laura Nyro. There are so many ways this one can go, but I looked up her body of work and frankly, it's average. Name your favorite Nyro banger. I know the HOF was freaking out that they didn't have enough women representing Rock... but there are such better ways to diversify than just grabbing some random hippie chick who had no hits.

Go ahead... kick somebody out of a Hall of Fame and explain why.

Bob Griese is a Bolermaker, kick him out and we will have words.
 
Bob Griese is a Bolermaker, kick him out and we will have words.

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Bob Griese is a Bolermaker, kick him out and we will have words.

Oh, he is out and I will have words with your English professors. Low standards!
 
Earl Monroe would never have been put in the HOF if he wasn't a Knick. Boot him.

You could dump half the RnR HOF and not miss a beat. Nyro included. I'll add ELO. Decent band, but nothing remarkable. Jeff Lynne would have been more worthy as an individual.

Throw out The Eagles too. White-wine sipping, yacht-rocking whiners. I'd submit that the douchenozzles responsible for New Kid in Town and Sunset Grill are more deserving of being put down like rabid poodles than election to a HOF.

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Earl Monroe would never have been put in the HOF if he wasn't a Knick. Boot him.

You could dump half the RnR HOF and not miss a beat. Nyro included. I'll add ELO. Decent band, but nothing remarkable. Jeff Lynne would have been more worthy as an individual.

Throw out The Eagles too. White-wine sipping, yacht-rocking whiners. I'd submit that the douchenozzles responsible for New Kid in Town and Sunset Grill are more deserving of being put down like rabid poodles than election to a HOF.

@The Oi

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If we are talking NBA accomplishments, I'd kick Calvin Murphy out. His list of accomplishments are 1st team all rookie and 1x allstar. He wasn't particularly great at anything other than FT% but he didn't exactly beat a path to the line for his career.

MLB: Edgar Martinez. He's a DH with good but not great hitting stats

NFL: Ray Lewis; He killed a guy

Rock and Roll: The Moody Blues: I've yet to meet anyone that actively likes any of their songs.
 
If we are talking NBA accomplishments, I'd kick Calvin Murphy out. His list of accomplishments are 1st team all rookie and 1x allstar. He wasn't particularly great at anything other than FT% but he didn't exactly beat a path to the line for his career.

MLB: Edgar Martinez. He's a DH with good but not great hitting stats

NFL: Ray Lewis; He killed a guy

Rock and Roll: The Moody Blues: I've yet to meet anyone that actively likes any of their songs.

I like their work.

Nights in White Satin and In Your Wildest Dreams are good songs.

But, I think on the balance they are not HoF material. Four moderately big hits in three decades are not a whole lot. It isn't bad, but not great. The only thing really recommending them is their longevity.
 
Earl Monroe would never have been put in the HOF if he wasn't a Knick. Boot him.

You could dump half the RnR HOF and not miss a beat. Nyro included. I'll add ELO. Decent band, but nothing remarkable. Jeff Lynne would have been more worthy as an individual.

Throw out The Eagles too. White-wine sipping, yacht-rocking whiners. I'd submit that the douchenozzles responsible for New Kid in Town and Sunset Grill are more deserving of being put down like rabid poodles than election to a HOF.

@The Oi


 
Rock and Roll: The Moody Blues: I've yet to meet anyone that actively likes any of their songs.

@Ben that's your band, bro!

I agree the R&R HOF has a lot of people who don't belong. I would have kick Bon Jovi out for being barely tolerable in the late 1980s, and embarrassing the next three decades.

I found out about another guy who needs kicked out of the Baseball HOF - Burleigh Grimes. He pitched from 1916-34. His career numbers were 2.85 WAR per 162 games. In 1920, Major League Baseball made the spitball illegal, but 17 players were given "lifetime exemptions" because the spitball was their out pitch, including Grimes.

So the guy had a long and slightly above average career being one of the only players allowed to throw spitballs. I remove you, Burleigh Grimes... and spit on your grave!
 
I like their work.

Nights in White Satin and In Your Wildest Dreams are good songs.

But, I think on the balance they are not HoF material. Four moderately big hits in three decades are not a whole lot. It isn't bad, but not great. The only thing really recommending them is their longevity.

They were somewhat innovative to the extent they blended rock and light classical music. Hadn't been done before then.
 

I hope not.
 
Bill Bradley shouldn't be in the basketball hall of fame. Mo Cheeks probably shouldn't either.

Here's the thing about Mo Cheeks, he was a point guard who averaged 6 assists a game and 11 points.

Now, you might say "He was a great defensive player!!!" And that he was. He made the defensive 1st team 4 times.

But in an era dominated by big men, what does that REALLY mean? Today, it'd mean a helluva a lot, when the majority of your scoring comes from the perimeter. But then? So, awesome, you're regularly guarding the opposing teams 3rd or 4th option on offense.

Juuuust not that impactful. Not enough to overcome his very mediocre offensive career.
 
They were somewhat innovative to the extent they blended rock and light classical music. Hadn't been done before then.

This is true. They are a seminal progressive rock group.

And Days of Future Passed is an important and fine work.
 

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