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- Apr 27, 2005
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We don't know what Kyler for sure weighs or measures at. Wilson's official measurement was also 5'10 5/8". So he wasn't officially 5'11". I'm not here to quibble over 3/8 of an inch but he is shorter than 5'11", which everyone keeps saying. You also don't notice much of a difference if you look at pictures of he and Baker next to each other and no one will ever convince me that an inch or two of eye level matters at all.......to me, it's a cop out to generalize prospects that way....."Oh, that guy was just too short". It is oversimplifying the evaluation process that is far more complicated than a single physical measurement.....especially considering the success of guys like Wilson, Brees, Baker, etc. who have succeeded at a below average height.
Certainly there are varying degrees of short but if people subscribe to the theory that Murray can't see over his lineman and that is why you shouldn't draft him, there is literally zero chance Wilson can either (if that is your stance).......and he has succeeded anyway. Every short person will not succeed but Wilson has removed the stereotype that nobody can succeed.
Now scouts need to decide if someone in the same ballpark can succeed with a lesser but adequate arm but as a far more dynamic runner. Again, I don't love Murray but people are too polarized about him already. We haven't even seen what he is measured at, how his arm looks in throwing drills (and measured velocity), how he tests athletically, etc. He has tape that most will like and people should reserve final judgement on him until the combine / pro day, when he is stacked up physically. At this point, most are just guessing what his exact physical profile is.
Edit: I just saw this
So if that is true, he's less than an inch shorter than Wilson. Whatever that is worth to people.
Good point if he is 5'10 like said above. Thing about Wilson is he is 215lbs. If Kyler comes in at 205 or so, then I am a bit more ok with him.
Great point about the drills, I am not convinced the velocity test does much because some players with strong arms were at 55mph, I think they test speed out of the hand I think some people throw a ball that builds velocity past the test. Just doesn't match up the few times I looked long term at that test.
My thought was I was believe the noise he was going to come in at 5'8 which is where I have a problem with height. I always thought it was funny how they said Baker was so short when he measured just a bit under 6'1 which isn't that short for a pro qb.
But yeah, we will see, and evaluating a qb is tough. People will be lying if they think of the Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning debate that half of the league and fans preferred Leaf over Manning. Today no one preferred Leaf, but so not true back then.