Let it all out. The Cavaliers Rant Thread

[foucault87]

Here's the game log for Garland. I think you might be imagining things. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garlada01/gamelog/2022

He's missed 15 games. We lost 7. Those wins came against Atlanta (3rd game of the season), Indy (four times), the Pelicans, the Wizards, and the Hornets (where we got very lucky). There was no stretch where we were beating good teams, let alone blowing them out, without Garland. We lost to Charlotte, the Wizards (badly), the Pelicans, Atlanta, the Rockets, the Pistons, and the Wolves without Garland. Almost all of those are loses against bad teams.

With Sexton, if he's shooting from outside and making his shots, he'll help. If he's driving on 75% of his possessions, then it's going to look a like a slightly better version of LeVert on offense and worse version of LeVert on defense.

But the reality is that with Rubio, Allen, Mobley, and Garland, we were a .600 team during the tough part of our schedule even without Sexton.

I was in fact imaging things. Been a long season.

Agreed with Sexton. I think the other underrated aspect of him, which is harder to quantify, is that he lets us rest Garland more. Garland was insanely efficient when we had the double PG backcourt running but he has struggled to scale the efficiency with volume. Sexton lets you keep that volume down which in the end lets you maximize both guys.

 

[CavsKermit]

I was in fact imaging things. Been a long season.

Agreed with Sexton. I think the other underrated aspect of him, which is harder to quantify, is that he lets us rest Garland more. Garland was insanely efficient when we had the double PG backcourt running but he has struggled to scale the efficiency with volume. Sexton lets you keep that volume down which in the end lets you maximize both guys.

Yeah, but we're seeing how that's working out with LeVert. It's two seasons in a row now where our backup PG has gone down with an injury and the results have been very bad. The second unit needs a true PG running the offense. Both Sexton and LeVert are much better in roles where they're not expected to run the offense and facilitate. They're better off getting secondary assists when the opposing defense is forced into multiple rotations.

 

[foucault87]

Yeah, but we're seeing how that's working out with LeVert. It's two seasons in a row now where our backup PG has gone down with an injury and the results have been very bad. The second unit needs a true PG running the offense. Both Sexton and LeVert are much better in roles where they're not expected to run the offense and facilitate. They're better off getting secondary assists when the opposing defense is forced into multiple rotations.

I agree with this. Sexton is probably the better lead ball handler of the two and LeVert is slightly better as a secondary guy. Either way, we do really need a better replacement for Rubio's role. We got good value out of Rondo for like idk 5 quarters and Goodwin once or twice, but neither are real options at this point. And I hope we never see point Cedi again.

I am sure there will be a couple options available this offseason that don't completely suck. Just need to find the next Delly

 

[Omar The Horse]

One post All-Star practice changed everything.

 

[Cement]

What a travesty.

Okoro, Levert, Garland at the end, soft as shit Allen, JBB…fuck all those fools tonight.

Soft and stupid tonight.

 

[letgocavs]

Snatched defeat out the Jaws of victory

 

[All4One1ForAll]

What a travesty.

Okoro, Levert, Garland at the end, soft as shit Allen, JBB…fuck all those fools tonight.

Soft and stupid tonight.

Allen doesn’t deserve to be mentioned with the rest. He pulled down 20 rebounds and had some big defensive plays down the stretch that should have been enough for us to seal the win. He showed up tonight.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

It's just sad that so much gambling is involved in sports. NBA with good officiating is a damn good product. But this kills my passion for the game. Okay, not really, but it fucking blows.

 

[guitarguy]

Certainly the Cavs blew it, but the ref shit is too much, it really ruins the game. It's not just the Cavs either, super star calls, and inconsistency almost makes it unwatchable, which sucks.

 

[bleedwineandgold03]

The call on levert for the offensive foul and then the dunk hang on the net that is a 5 point swing on top of the 6 straight free throws any team would lose this game. Nba is rigged plain and simple

 

[BigZ94]

Certainly the Cavs blew it, but the ref shit is too much, it really ruins the game. It's not just the Cavs either, super star calls, and inconsistency almost makes it unwatchable, which sucks.

You see Klays foul on Kevin Huerter? Absolute travesty and one of the most blatant missed calls I’ve ever seen. Kings should sue because the refs were definitely being told to help GS as much as possible

Interestingly it’s going to be a matchup tonight of two teams screwed by Adam silencer in their last game

 

[guitarguy]

You see Klays foul on Kevin Huerter? Absolute travesty and one of the most blatant missed calls I’ve ever seen. Kings should sue because the refs were definitely being told to help GS as much as possible

Interestingly it’s going to be a matchup tonight of two teams screwed by Adam silencer in their last game

Yeah it was terrible. The league really screws up constantly.

 

[CroopZ23]

Just going to rapid fire some thoughts

-- DG gets a pass & has earned the benefit of the doubt.
-- Okoro needs to sit. Wade, while not ideal, should start for floor spacing. LeVert off bench for 25-30 mins
-- Mobley looks invisible on offense most nights. It is not only a skill issue- he is physically weak and his mentality is passive. Yes, he is a top 10 defender.
-- Something is slightly off with Allen but not too concerned.
-- Spida is a top 10 player- but him carrying our offensive is not sustainable.
-- DG & Spida will be an amazing tandem- but it will take time. I think Garland is struggling playing off the ball- which makes sense.
-- Right now, we are a 2nd round exit. We become a contender by finding our long term
solution @ the wing & the biggest factor: Mobley becomes an all star caliber player.

Most of this is pretty obvious to most of
us-but I felt compelled to share it while having
my morning coffee.

 

[chuck0609]

I’m looking at this a little more basically. This is a defense first team- where’s the defense? 127 points to Sacramento after the collapse to the Clippers.
Perhaps JB needs to remind the team how they win games.
Teams are starting to shoot the 3 better against them. Sac was 43.6%. During the winning streak it was around 29%. Gotta get back to defense.

 

[guitarguy]

The Cavs have been "believing" the hype, and they have had a bad habit of needing the halftime pep talk recently. Then, they watch themselves get back into a game when they actually "try". Probably fortunately it hasn't worked the last 2 games, maybe it will be a wake up call that they shouldn't be losing these games.