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First off, I think we need to differentiate between a service dog, meaning a dog trained to assist a human with a disability, and a specialized working dog, meaning a dog that is meant to perform a highly specific task or set of tasks. The former can be many dog breeds, because instinct is less important than general intelligence and trainability. The latter often requires specific bred in instincts to properly perform its task.

Service dogs, as mentioned, really do not require a specific instinct, and I would argue that a general lack of specific dog instincts is preferable. For example, my buddy's Pointer would make a uniquely terrible service dog, because the second he sees a bird that is all he can focus on.

To keep focused on that Pointer, his instinct for tracking birds makes him an ideal working dog, because he naturally has a desire to chase down birds and has the requisite size to carry large ones back to his owner. Could you train a dog without that instinct to do his job? I mean, maybe, but there's a reason that humans have spent thousands of years developing breeds for specific tasks. Because it works.

Similarly, there's a reason why almost all police and military dogs are either German Shepherds or Belgian Malinois. These dogs require impeccable breeding due to the inherently dangerous nature of what they do, and these breeds also have the size, strength, intelligence, and inbred loyalty necessary to perform their work. A poorly bred dog trained to attack and subdue could turn on its owner.

And I think blaming all breeder for the negligent actions of some breeders, along with the dog owners who don't properly care for or fix their dogs, is silly. If you do your part and don't buy from puppy mills or breeders who produce dozens of litters a year (I always look for ones who only produce a handful of litters a year, and who don't force single dogs to have multiple litters over short periods of time), and if you spay/neuter your dogs, you're part of the solution, not the problem.
We don't need to differentiate anything. I understand the situation perfectly fine. Again, I am not ignorant of this topic. You can stop acting like I'm ill-informed. I can assure you that I am not, and I have not done that to you.
 
And how would the breeder know if you, or any other buyer, did that or not? As opposed to you buying the dog and then breeding it yourself?

You have to have paperwork filed for a puppy to officially be part of that breed. The value goes way down without that. Also lowers risk of cancer if you spay them before they go into heat, which we did with our Frenchies.

I get the argument for rescue route, and my wife donates to a rescue group. We might consider that next time, which hopefully is a long time from now as our frenchies are just 2 and 3.
 
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Get a Frenchie. Small but they act like big dogs.

Expensive as fuck though.

couple of ways to get them cheaper

wife found a breeder who will give away a Frenchie to a family who already has one, you agree to let them breed her twice, then spay her. Of course, this only works after you already have one and you have to live in their area in Florida.

the rescue group my wife donates to rescues all kinds of dogs, including frenchies. I think they charge something to help cover their costs

 
I have a lab/Shepard who’s a rescue. She’s a great dog, very affectionate and smart. Though, she’s definitely been abused and gets skittish around certain things. She’s also been attacked by a couple dogs at a dog park so she’s not the biggest fans of other dogs anymore. With that said, I couldn’t be happier with her.
 
I'm sorry you don't agree with me, but I'm not ignorant on the topic. This is something I've felt strongly about for a long time. Whatever positives you think come from "good breeding" is far outweighed in my mind by the approximately 670,000 dogs that die in shelters each year.

Same here. I just can't get over that. We got ours from Paws and Prayers in Akron, and he was just fantastic. Lab/husky mix.

Also rescued two kittens from the APL, and then a starving feral one our dog found. But I keep telling
Mrs. Tip that's my limit!
 
This is my company. I am just a minority owner but it’s going well: www.ketonaturalpetfoods.com

Sucks that my daughter is allergic to dog saliva. When she broke her elbow, she was on Healthy Living Chicago bc the doc had a dog that helped calm her (so the story goes), and right after the filming she broke out from the saliva (again). Ha!

Anyway, please feel free to not take a look at my biz and certainly feel free not to tell me that our food is too expensive. However if you have the means and are interested, let me know and I can prob work something out where RCF gets some affiliate fee or something and people get a discount.
 
This is my company. I am just a minority owner but it’s going well: www.ketonaturalpetfoods.com

Sucks that my daughter is allergic to dog saliva. When she broke her elbow, she was on Healthy Living Chicago bc the doc had a dog that helped calm her (so the story goes), and right after the filming she broke out from the saliva (again). Ha!

Anyway, please feel free to not take a look at my biz and certainly feel free not to tell me that our food is too expensive. However if you have the means and are interested, let me know and I can prob work something out where RCF gets some affiliate fee or something and people get a discount.

any experience with frenchies using your food?
 
any experience with frenchies using your food?

The science says carbs are bad for dogs. Frenchies, pits, chihuahas. Doesn’t matter. We have probably had every breed of subscriber by now.
 
I have had two mutts. The first one that died at 10 was absurd.

She had a level of anxiety that I can’t begin to explain. We went to a dog park a couple times and she ran to the exit and would try to leap to the top of the fence to escape. At our home, if we accidentally closed the door while she was in the yard she would leap the fence and run around in the street and neighbors yards...which she was terrified of being in. Made no logical sense. When we walked her she’d consistently try to gator roll and a couple times she got away before we just stopped. Once, we had to chase her about a mile home near a busy road. She did that meme where she chewed through fences. She dug under fences. Jumped over fences. Until we got our second dog who sorta leveled her, she’d bark at guests and back up and scratch the floor...nonstop.

She was a fucking nightmare. She used to sort of cuddle with us at night until we moved slightly and then she’d dart underneath the bed.

I can’t think of a worse dog. I did love her but Jesus Christ she sucked objectively.
 
I have had two mutts. The first one that died at 10 was absurd.

She had a level of anxiety that I can’t begin to explain. We went to a dog park a couple times and she ran to the exit and would try to leap to the top of the fence to escape. At our home, if we accidentally closed the door while she was in the yard she would leap the fence and run around in the street and neighbors yards...which she was terrified of being in. Made no logical sense. When we walked her she’d consistently try to gator roll and a couple times she got away before we just stopped. Once, we had to chase her about a mile home near a busy road. She did that meme where she chewed through fences. She dug under fences. Jumped over fences. Until we got our second dog who sorta leveled her, she’d bark at guests and back up and scratch the floor...nonstop.

She was a fucking nightmare. She used to sort of cuddle with us at night until we moved slightly and then she’d dart underneath the bed.

I can’t think of a worse dog. I did love her but Jesus Christ she sucked objectively.

I may be getting my leg humped in here, but my two pure bred dogs aren't digging under fences, barking at guests, or leading a chase near crowded roads, so you can suck my dick. :chuckle:
 
I may be getting my leg humped in here, but my two pure bred dogs aren't digging under fences, barking at guests, or leading a chase near crowded roads, so you can suck my dick. :chuckle:
Congrats! Neither does my mutt!

Sounds like you're a good dog owner.
 
The Podengo is a rescue, and was afraid of her shadow for a full year before she started becoming a real dog. The breed does not respond to negative, and just digs in its heels. So everything has to be positive re-enforcement. Makes them hard to train, and takes a lot of patience. Also because they are a "Multisensory" dog, any little thing can set her off. That said she is a sweet intelligent and loving dog. kimchi (2).jpg
 

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