Mike Pence is Coronavirus czar, clearly not a Modello guy, and other politics discussion related to the virus

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Is Trump Taking Corona Seriously?

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  • Nah, bro.

    Votes: 34 41.0%
  • Bah! Such Hand-Wringing Over Something No Worse Than the Flu!

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • We Need to do a Lot More. Just in Case.

    Votes: 21 25.3%
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Lee

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So I live in Dublin, OH. For those that don’t know, it’s a suburb about 15 min from downtown Columbus. In terms of affluent and educated people, Dublin might be the top area in Columbus, trailing Upper Arlington if anyone. For reference, this is where the Memorial Tournament is played.

There’s a hiking trail near downtown Dublin that I like to go to. Even during non-COVID times, I always go at odd times when there’s fewer people, and I go on a part of the trail that’s harder to get to and have seen a total of two people on in about 20 trips. Many times I’ll go on the main trail because there’s no one even on it.

Anyway, I go up there a little after 8PM (it remains light there until about 9). As I’m driving through downtown Dublin, the streets and restaurants are just as crowded as a normal nice Friday spring/summer evening not during a pandemic.

To be honest, I don’t think anyone was even on the trail at that moment, but I literally couldn’t find anywhere to park. It was nuts. As I turn around and head home I’m sitting at the stop light looking around. There were likely 50 people in the area and I believe I saw one person with a mask.

This shit’s about to get bad unless heat actually has some positive effect. People just seemed to be
Heeat and humidity do have an effect....issue is we will get more and more laxed and come fall when we think we are past this, it will explode and it will be Trumps gift to Biden with over 3 million infected Americans.
 

CleveRocks

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if you assault someone and they die because of the assault, it's murder.
I agree with you, but you would have to prove causuality and intent. Someone intentionally coughs on you, and you get show symptoms five days later, you would have to extract the virus and compare them in both cases. Even then there is enough uncertainty you are unlikely to get beyond reasonable doubt. The coughing is still assault. If you throw an axe at someone its still assault even if you miss, I think..
 

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Prove it was them coughing that infected you. You're living in lala land if you think you're getting a murder conviction for coughing on someone.
not being able to get a conviction doesn't change the fact that if you cough on someone intentionally and they die because of it, you killed them

It's mind boggling that people intentionally coughing on people during a pandemic is even an issues.
 

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not being able to get a conviction doesn't change the fact that if you cough on someone intentionally and they die because of it, you killed them

It's mind boggling that people intentionally coughing on people during a pandemic is even an issues.
There's no "issue" here. I'm not suggesting it was a good thing for them to do, I'm not defending their actions, at all. If you can scientifically prove what you got came from the person that cough'ed on you, then you could make a case. That's not (as far as we know) possible, which due to raw exposure to other potential infection points creates a massive reasonable doubt. However just having to prove that they intentionally coughed on you is an assault charge, and that can stick.

No one is saying they're right in what they did, I'm personally saying talking about murder and / or manslaughter for a disease of this nature is extremely unrealistic.
 

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People are under stress. Home lock downs and a virus that may or certainly will kill you, while your financial safety net collapses, and all your elected officials seem able to do is investigate each others unethical if not illegal actions, is going to cause bizarre behavior..
 

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Looking it up, it looks like some people intentionally coughing while claiming to have COVID are being charged with terrorism.



 

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Looking it up, it looks like some people intentionally coughing while claiming to have COVID are being charged with terrorism.



Good. Fuck those people.
 

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Prove it was them coughing that infected you. You're living in lala land if you think you're getting a murder conviction for coughing on someone.
If someone coughs on me, I’m beating the shit out of them plain and simple. Maybe we’ll both get assault charges.
 

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Looking it up, it looks like some people intentionally coughing while claiming to have COVID are being charged with terrorism.



Yea see this I don't like.

Using terrorism statutes as all encompassing. This won't hold up in court for long.

Find other avenues. It's battery in all cases. It's assault in some. If the person does, it can be something more severe.
 

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