Mike Pence is Coronavirus czar, clearly not a Modello guy, and other politics discussion related to the virus

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How Has President Trump Handled the COVID Crisis?

  • He gave a powerful, dominant response. COVID is defeated.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yeah, he made some mistakes, but on the balance he did well.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3.6 Roentgens. Not bad, not great.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Trump did not help things and could have done better.

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Trump's response was an utter disaster and catastrophic in lives and treasure.

    Votes: 22 75.9%
  • Who cares. We all deserve to die.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Maine Coon would have done better.

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Ohio BMV is apparently a mess this morning. Long lines and the get in line online site crashed. Allowing online renewal of driver licenses would probably have eased lot of this. Hopefully they get their act together and allow for online renewals.

People also don't need to renew their license because of the governor's state of emergency order and they extended people's license for 90 days after the emergency ends or December 1st, which ever comes first. I just think they don't realize how many people just don't want that hanging over their head or risk getting a dick cop who wants any reason to give you a ticket.

I will be renewing my license when the lines go down at my local BMV so I don't get caught with an expired license in a second wave in November or December. I'm still holding out hope I can just get it done online to avoid the physical BMV all together.
 

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Ohio BMV is apparently a mess this morning. Long lines and the get in line online site crashed. Allowing online renewal of driver licenses would probably have eased lot of this. Hopefully they get their act together and allow for online renewals.

People also don't need to renew their license because of the governor's state of emergency order and they extended people's license for 90 days after the emergency ends or December 1st, which ever comes first. I just think they don't realize how many people just don't want that hanging over their head or risk getting a dick cop who wants any reason to give you a ticket.

I will be renewing my license when the lines go down at my local BMV so I don't get caught with an expired license in a second wave in November or December. I'm still holding out hope I can just get it done online to avoid the physical BMV all together.
Hard to do license renewal when it requires a current photo. Mine expired Friday, and I don't plan on going in until the middle of June to get it renewed.
 

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I need to do mine as well. Everyone in Ohio this year needed a new licence if I recall. They are doing a brand new format to comply with federal mandates.
 

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I need to do mine as well. Everyone in Ohio this year needed a new licence if I recall. They are doing a brand new format to comply with federal mandates.
After October, you won't be able to use your Ohio ID to take a commercial flight in the US, unless you've already got it updated to a federally compliant ID.

The federal act was extended to Oct 2021 because of Covid.
 

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Hard to do license renewal when it requires a current photo. Mine expired Friday, and I don't plan on going in until the middle of June to get it renewed.
Everyone has a digital camera of some sort on their phone, computer, etc. Not hard to upload a picture. 36 states already have online renewal, not sure if they reuse photos or make you upload a new one.

Also apparently some BMV are having problems with their camera.
 

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Everyone has a digital camera of some sort on their phone, computer, etc. Not hard to upload a picture. 36 states already have online renewal, not sure if they reuse photos or make you upload a new one.

Also apparently some BMV are having problems with their camera.
Can't do a vision test over the internet. I suppose you could bring a current prescription from an optometrist, but that would just shift the crowd, not eliminate it.
 
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After October, you won't be able to use your Ohio ID to take a commercial flight in the US, unless you've already got it updated to a federally compliant ID.

The federal act was extended to Oct 2021 because of Covid.
I think the decision to extend the real ID was in the works before Covid. I remember around January, they were talking about how the number of people with compliant IDs was too low to actually implement it.
 
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Can't do a vision test over the internet. I suppose you could bring a current prescription from an optometrist, but that would just shift the crowd, not eliminate it.
Alot of states just make you get a vision test every 8 years so you can renew online.
 

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Alot of states just make you get a vision test every 8 years so you can renew online.
Seems to be that the majority of those states that offer online renewals do one of two things. Licenses are good for 8 years, or you're only allowed to do it online or by mail for every other renewal.
 

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Ohio cases holding steady with the numbers DeWine released today. Great news, hopefully people can keep using caution and limit exposure to others
 

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Seems to be that the majority of those states that offer online renewals do one of two things. Licenses are good for 8 years, or you're only allowed to do it online or by mail for every other renewal.
Yes and I just looked up Virginia randomly to see what their requirements were. They are 8 years plus renewal online every other cycle with the vision test remove so you can go 16 years without a vision test unless you are over 75.

Truly 4 year licenses without online renewal isn't the norm with most states. This would be the perfect time for Ohio to catch up and just allow online renewal to keep more people safe. I wouldn't even be against a stop gap online renewal for 2 years so people have to get the Real IDs compliant ones closer to the October 2021 deadline for TSA. Also who knows if that Real ID deadline will get pushed back again. The Real ID act was passed in May 2005, it's been 15 years and they still can't implement it.
 
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65 and older: account for 79% of deaths
64 and under: account for 78% of cases

In 2016, Trump got 63% of the 65+ vote. Yikes.
 

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65 and older: account for 79% of deaths
64 and under: account for 78% of cases

In 2016, Trump got 63% of the 65+ vote. Yikes.
I don't know the numbers, but isn't this also disproportionately affecting minorities? Also urban residents? AKA non-Trump voters?

For the record, I think this line of discussion goes down an ugly path.
 

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65 and older: account for 79% of deaths
64 and under: account for 78% of cases

In 2016, Trump got 63% of the 65+ vote. Yikes.
The 0-17 is clearly just not being tested too. I would be surprised if the cases weren't more evenly distributed through out the age demographics if we had wide spread testing. Even if the older demographics are sheltering in place and limiting their exposure, they would also be less likely to give blood or get randomly tested if they were asymptomatic or had a very mild symptoms that they thought was a cold or the flu.
 
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I don't know the numbers, but isn't this also disproportionately affecting minorities? Also urban residents? AKA non-Trump voters?

For the record, I think this line of discussion goes down an ugly path.
Point taken.
 

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