Mike Pence is Coronavirus czar, clearly not a Modello guy, and other politics discussion related to the virus

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Maybe the line of thinking is that bars being open longer results in more people getting drunk, and that drunk people are more prone to violating social distancing guidelines?

Genuinely have no idea on the rationale, though.
I think it's along those lines. Also people don't descend down to the bars usually before 10pm especially those in their 20's. This is effectively closing night clubs and dive bars. Other places have done it by saying bars that don't serve food have to close. That would have been real ineffective in Ohio since basically all bars seem to serve food.

People might say that it will push young people to have parties more which it probably will. The number of parties and number of people invited to those parties will decrease over time. It's a big difference between having people over night after night in college and living in the mess it creates. People hopefully will tighten their circles because parties just create issues from everyone being drunk. Those issues are there for the person who throws the party to fix in the morning unlikely going to bar hopping night after night. All of this is said from personal experience, you just tired of being the one who throw the party. It just becomes easier to invite a few friends and just hang out.
 

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In pa. It's not just that a bar has food. You have to order food to get alcohol.
I think Ohio and most of the country will ultimately need more rules/restrictions. Maybe the support for those rules will be there now that alot of k-12 schools are going virtual and colleges are slowly following suit too.
 

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In pa. It's not just that a bar has food. You have to order food to get alcohol.
Ya, there's some weird state laws. I visited RI for a stay in Providence over a long weekend once. There, they are not allowed to discount drinks, and I believe you have to buy food as well. So your mixed drinks would cost $11 a piece but the rest of the meal, which wasn't bar food but high quality restaurant food, cost $3 (only if you bought a drink).
 

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This highlights the difference in how Canada approached things compared to the US. I think it speaks to the difference in citizenry as much as the governments. Canada isn't a shining example, but its people bought in. I'd love to have their trajectory right now.

 

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Ya, there's some weird state laws. I visited RI for a stay in Providence over a long weekend once. There, they are not allowed to discount drinks, and I believe you have to buy food as well. So your mixed drinks would cost $11 a piece but the rest of the meal, which wasn't bar food but high quality restaurant food, cost $3 (only if you bought a drink).
MA bars - or at least Boston bars - have to serve food and cannot offer discounted drinks as you might find at Happy Hour - so the dive bars install a vending machine (purchase at your own risk...), and the better bars offer massive appetizer and food discounts during happy hour instead (buy a pitcher of beer, get a free pizza). So... pretty much same as RI :)
 

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If Indiana has any weird bar rules my college town's bars never enforced any of them (or any rules for that matter) :chuckle:
 

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If Indiana has any weird bar rules my college town's bars never enforced any of them (or any rules for that matter) :chuckle:
I think alot of places the rules were just done in big cities. I think Indianapolis closed bars and reduced restaurant capacity. Columbus tried to do the 10pm last call but they were sued by the bars which an injunction was put in place because there is some law that local regulations can't supersede Ohio liquor laws.

I think Dewine wanted to try an area by area approach to start. At the end of the day the Columbus bars who sued screwed over the rest of the state and maybe themselves even more if they owned other bars outside the city of Columbus.

I think bars are either closed or restricted in pretty much every major city in the US right now.
 
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If Indiana has any weird bar rules my college town's bars never enforced any of them (or any rules for that matter) :chuckle:
No happy hour was the main one, as if you discount liquor it has to be all day. And you cannot serve alcohol on election day until after 6....that would always piss of some, lol.
 

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EDIT: Deleting my post because it may be inaccurate.
 
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In San Jose people are watching the soccer match while in their cars to maintain distance.

Odd that they spaced out the cars even. Is that for visibility, or are cars not better than masks? :p
 

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Odd that they spaced out the cars even. Is that for visibility, or are cars not better than masks? :p
I'm guessing most people aren't wearing masks because they're inside their car. But hey, even if they are, I'd rather be spread out from others than right on top of them.

Why are we ridiculing safety? Good for those people for choosing to take care of themselves and others. Wish we would see this sort of behavior everywhere.
 

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