MLB 2024 Draft

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I keep meaning to watch some college baseball and keep forgetting about it. That Aussie looking good eh?
 
Ok, I am not advocating to draft him at #1 and it is high school but wow:

Konnor Griffin
Hitting
GP Avg PA AB R H RBI 2B 3B HR GS
14.6865435282497130
GP SF SH/B BB K HBP ROE FC LOB OBP SLG OPS
14101632204.7781.2001.978

Pitching
IP H R ER BB K 2B 3B HR
19710436000
 
thoughtful said:
Ok, I am not advocating to draft him at #1 and it is high school but wow:

Konnor Griffin
Hitting
GP Avg PA AB R H RBI 2B 3B HR GS
14.6865435282497130
GP SF SH/B BB K HBP ROE FC LOB OBP SLG OPS
14101632204.7781.2001.978

Pitching
IP H R ER BB K 2B 3B HR
19710436000
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We do have a large budget... These numbers, could merit the pick we have in the 30s...

Don't be surprised if a top player falls, that we snag them...
 
sportscoach said:
We do have a large budget... These numbers, could merit the pick we have in the 30s...

Don't be surprised if a top player falls, that we snag them...
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Konnor Griffin falling out of the first round (outside of a significant injury) is not something remotely plausible, IMO. He’s easily the best HS bat.
 
DJTJ said:
Konnor Griffin falling out of the first round (outside of a significant injury) is not something remotely plausible, IMO. He’s easily the best HS bat.
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It's a question of how much he wants to sign for, not pure talent... Baseball drafting is a mixture of the money you have and how much a player wants... Cleveland having the largest pool, could possibly get the top HS player, IF the other teams do not believe they can sign him...

Football and basketball it is picking the best player for your team whether it's talent or scheme fit while baseball it is not. You can be the best player, but don't go even in the first round because you are wanting to much money to sign so no one takes you... And remember we paid just about the same for Benson and Jones even though they were different rounds.
 
DJTJ said:
Konnor Griffin falling out of the first round (outside of a significant injury) is not something remotely plausible, IMO. He’s easily the best HS bat.
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A couple of things.. Konnor Griffing is the goods.. he has it all.. and is clearly worthy of praise.. That said..

Griffin is a top ten 2024 draftee.. Only the 1-1 with a discount would make any sense for him to become the property of the Guardians.. and that has more of a chance of happening than some hairbrained idea about him dropping into the Competitive Balance part of the draft..
 
Gson said:
A couple of things.. Konnor Griffing is the goods.. he has it all.. and is clearly worthy of praise.. That said..

Griffin is a top ten 2024 draftee.. Only the 1-1 with a discount would make any sense for him to become the property of the Guardians.. and that has more of a chance of happening than some hairbrained idea about him dropping into the Competitive Balance part of the draft..
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In recent draft there was a high school kid who got selected in the tenth round even though he was a 1st round grade... It's because no one felt he would sign... So don't say top High school guys won't fall just because they are good... It all depends on IF teams feel they can sign them... I wouldn't be surprised to see a gamble on someone in this draft...

Ps. Don't forget college kids can earn money now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a top high school player who is going to a top baseball college, maybe turn down anything but a top offer...
 
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sportscoach said:
In recent draft there was a high school kid who got selected in the tenth round even though he was a 1st round grade... It's because no one felt he would sign... So don't say top High school guys won't fall just because they are good... It all depends on IF teams feel they can sign them... I wouldn't be surprised to see a gamble on someone in this draft...

Ps. Don't forget college kids can earn money now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a top high school player who is going to a top baseball college, maybe turn down anything but a top offer...
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You being surprised is a daily occurrence...
 
@Gson...

Will Taylor was the 20th ranked prospect in the 21 draft... Texas took him in the 19th round...

So to say top HS prospect don't fall is kind of silly...

Now do I expect Griffin to actually sign... Yes, I do, but his top 10 ranking FV wise, doesn't mean he will go top 10... I don't expect him to make it to our comp pick...

But don't be surprised if someone slips, we will go overslot with the Comp pick to get said player...
 
sportscoach said:
Will Taylor was the 20th ranked prospect in the 21 draft... Texas took him in the 19th round...
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Key is Will Taylor didn't sign. I have been advocating for the discount and sign someone who drops. Yet, a 20th ranked prospect falls because they want the $3 million pick value or more (don't play games on letting other teams save money). Griffin will want his $5 million top-10 value if not more. The money we will save is more of the $1-$2 million value. 5% on 9 million plus any discount. The average discount from signing under-slot is maybe $500k on average plus $450k on 5%. Davis (for Pitt) being picked #1 for #5 talent (and clear strategy of saving money be negotiating pre-draft) was $2 million plus 5%. And, even then, Pitt took Solometo and Chandler (20th ranked type guys for that $3 million 20th pick ask) and saved in other places as well (as 2nd and 3rd round picks had $3 million slot) so needed every bit and more of $2.4 million saved with Davis pick.

Think, best plan is go with best hitter of the 3 and call it a day (maybe spend $1 million more on a pitcher who falls). With Kwan and Naylor needing to be signed (maybe get 1 this spring to sign), we will need another big bat to put in the line up beyond my Martinez and DeLauter favs. Kwan will only have 3 years left after this year (and supposedly turned down a contract already???). So, a high pick will be the perfect replacement after 25.
 
petes999 said:
Key is Will Taylor didn't sign. I have been advocating for the discount and sign someone who drops. Yet, a 20th ranked prospect falls because they want the $3 million pick value or more (don't play games on letting other teams save money). Griffin will want his $5 million top-10 value if not more. The money we will save is more of the $1-$2 million value. 5% on 9 million plus any discount. The average discount from signing under-slot is maybe $500k on average plus $450k on 5%. Davis (for Pitt) being picked #1 for #5 talent (and clear strategy of saving money be negotiating pre-draft) was $2 million plus 5%. And, even then, Pitt took Solometo and Chandler (20th ranked type guys for that $3 million 20th pick ask) and saved in other places as well (as 2nd and 3rd round picks had $3 million slot) so needed every bit and more of $2.4 million saved with Davis pick.

Think, best plan is go with best hitter of the 3 and call it a day (maybe spend $1 million more on a pitcher who falls). With Kwan and Naylor needing to be signed (maybe get 1 this spring to sign), we will need another big bat to put in the line up beyond my Martinez and DeLauter favs. Kwan will only have 3 years left after this year (and supposedly turned down a contract already???). So, a high pick will be the perfect replacement after 25.
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My original point was there are players who fall because the price tag of the signing bonus they want, especially top high school players...

Also I am looking at, would a Kevin Bazzell be worth maybe getting under slot with the Comp pick? He's got a very nice hit tool from the right side plus they believe he can stay at catcher...

We just don't know what people want to sign for... I feel like we need to go more college route early in my opinion...
 
sportscoach said:
@Gson...

Will Taylor was the 20th ranked prospect in the 21 draft... Texas took him in the 19th round...

So to say top HS prospect don't fall is kind of silly...

Now do I expect Griffin to actually sign... Yes, I do, but his top 10 ranking FV wise, doesn't mean he will go top 10... I don't expect him to make it to our comp pick...

But don't be surprised if someone slips, we will go overslot with the Comp pick to get said player...
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Incredibly misleading.

Will Taylor didn’t get drafted in round 19 because he wanted an insane amount of money, he told teams he was going to play football at Clemson.
 
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