MLB Lock-Out is Finally Freakin’ Over

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PPark

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There are examples that work for other professional sport leagues. Anyway, while the FA prices are ridiculous, a big problem with the large contracts is the lack of production when paying said player $30M/yr. I may not be in the majority here, but pay and performance should go hand in hand. I don't give a shit if you're a first year player or a 15 yr vet.

We as fans are the ones getting fucked in this deal. The owners are going to get paid regardless. When things get more expensive for them they just pass it on down the line. So in order to "right the ship" one of 2 things needs to happen(from a fan perspective preferably both in order to keep it affordable to the general public). The league becomes a single owner of all the teams and disperses the money evenly or players' salaries get capped. I can wish in one hand and you know what in the other. I don't for one second expect either of those things to happen.

Greed and the loss of rationality ruins everything in time.
They’ve (the owners) known what to do since the Blue Ribbon commission: determine what is local and national revenue and share the latter equally.

But when it comes to markets and actual competition we’re dealing with men that talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Might makes right.

It’s a nice dream: MLB viewing itself as and operating as one entity rather than 30 separate entities, with top/down competition, and fan centric.

Humans. Can’t live with ‘em. Can’t live without ‘em. We’re a crazy lot.
 

Benway

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It's gonna get pretty dreary at Midnight.
 

CDAV45

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They’ve (the owners) known what to do since the Blue Ribbon commission: determine what is local and national revenue and share the latter equally.

But when it comes to markets and actual competition we’re dealing with men that talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. Might makes right.

It’s a nice dream: MLB viewing itself as and operating as one entity rather than 30 separate entities, with top/down competition, and fan centric.

Humans. Can’t live with ‘em. Can’t live without ‘em. We’re a crazy lot.
Absolutely!
 

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Not really shocked. Knew it was coming when the 'two different baseballs' story broke, which I'm sorry, is a nothing burger since supply chain issues were to blame (if we in the healthcare industry dealt with supply issues, then baseball players could deal with two slightly different baseballs). Anyhoo, hopefully they can find a decent deal that makes these skinflint owners at the bottom who hoard then I'm all for it.
 

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I wouldn't call it ugly yet.

Boring, yes.
 

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I'm not worried about the beginning of 2022. I'm more worried about mid January.

It looks to me like both sides are playing hardball.

It also looks to me like both sides are lying straight out.

The owners cry poverty while spending literally billions in three weeks time.

The main mouth for the MLBPA, Max Sherzer, cries much the same thing, while he signs a contract in which he will be paid over $40 million this coming season. I hope his tears didn't smear his signature.
 

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Been a baseball first guy my whole life but this shit is getting harder and harder to support every year
 
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The first sport I followed was baseball, around 1966. Like my dad I was a Mets fan (living in NJ then). Unfortunately we were living overseas in 1969 so missed that great season.

I became an Indians fan in the 70s after moving to NEO. It worked because my father and grandfather were Brooklyn Dodgers fans so Yankee Hating fit.

Baseball had a financial imbalance then and it has one now, but with the increase in local TV revenue disparity it’s extremely tough for small market teams to compete. We’ve had a great front office since Hank Peters came to town (before that it was a total shitshow) which has helped but the deck is stacked to some extent. Almost impossible for small market teams to hold stars.

Baseball is losing me with the expanded playoffs, long games, stat obsession, rapid pitching changes, HR or SO mentality, etc. Manfred totally sucks IMHO. I don’t see the revenue disparity getting fixed and I’m afraid any moves made by the current lords of baseball will mean less competitive balance.

Baseball was the #1 sports as late as the 60s. It’s the sport kids played more than any other. Not true today. A shame.
 

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