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Moves the Indians should make for the 2nd half

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Lee said:
How is an older girl with worse eyesight going to help this situation?
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The same way a "veteran" player makes a team better. They can explain some shit that coaches can't.......evidently.
 
Lee said:
How is an older girl with worse eyesight going to help this situation?
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Poor eyesight or not, probably has the experience to help you refine your "delivery" and maybe teach ya new trick or 2.
 
Would claiming Jake Lamb be a bad idea? Might be able to catch lightning in a bottle with him. He's had some injury misfortune and clearly doesn't fit in with the CWS plans. He was real good last season for Oakland in a small sample. He only has 113 AB this season due to a quad injury. He plays OF, 3B, and 1B. I'm not advocating for him one way or the other. I just read where the CWS designated him.
 
CDAV45 said:
The same way a "veteran" player makes a team better. They can explain some shit that coaches can't.......evidently.
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I feel like at times you don't understand why a peer sometimes can teach you something a teacher cannot... Different people have different knowledge and sometimes someone can teach through actual example rather than theory.

I used to coach swimming and I physically cannot do a whip kick/breaststroke kick, so I would demonstrate using someone who was really good at it to help teach it. Willis has been a pitching coach for a long time and knows the craft, but if you asked him if he can pitch all the pitches, he would likely say no.

Bauer and the crew that was there at the time, Kluber, Clev, Carrasco etc would work with each other on pitches since they could physically do the pitches and watch each others bullpens to help them on each others crafts.

Parker has always had a good splitter, so Stephan getting to see how one can throw a good one, is a great learning tool for a young pitcher. There is theory of teaching and there is example of teaching. One cannot do all of it since one cannot throw an example of all types of pitches.
 
sportscoach said:
I feel like at times you don't understand why a peer sometimes can teach you something a teacher cannot... Different people have different knowledge and sometimes someone can teach through actual example rather than theory.

I used to coach swimming and I physically cannot do a whip kick/breaststroke kick, so I would demonstrate using someone who was really good at it to help teach it. Willis has been a pitching coach for a long time and knows the craft, but if you asked him if he can pitch all the pitches, he would likely say no.

Bauer and the crew that was there at the time, Kluber, Clev, Carrasco etc would work with each other on pitches since they could physically do the pitches and watch each others bullpens to help them on each others crafts.

Parker has always had a good splitter, so Stephan getting to see how one can throw a good one, is a great learning tool for a young pitcher. There is theory of teaching and there is example of teaching. One cannot do all of it since one cannot throw an example of all types of pitches.
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I wonder if Eli might wanna get a couple splitter lessons himself.
 
Criznit said:
I wonder if Eli might wanna get a couple splitter lessons himself.
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He needs a legit 3rd pitch that he can throw from the same slot as his fastball and changeup that has a different speed/movement then the other two.
 
sportscoach said:
I feel like at times you don't understand why a peer sometimes can teach you something a teacher cannot... Different people have different knowledge and sometimes someone can teach through actual example rather than theory.

I used to coach swimming and I physically cannot do a whip kick/breaststroke kick, so I would demonstrate using someone who was really good at it to help teach it. Willis has been a pitching coach for a long time and knows the craft, but if you asked him if he can pitch all the pitches, he would likely say no.

Bauer and the crew that was there at the time, Kluber, Clev, Carrasco etc would work with each other on pitches since they could physically do the pitches and watch each others bullpens to help them on each others crafts.

Parker has always had a good splitter, so Stephan getting to see how one can throw a good one, is a great learning tool for a young pitcher. There is theory of teaching and there is example of teaching. One cannot do all of it since one cannot throw an example of all types of pitches.
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You got it wrong coach, and whose to say that a young person can't teach another? I don't know how long you played baseball, but I played for over 30 yrs of my life. I learned from every level of player. A veteran baseball player isn't the only one that can come in and say do this and net results that alter the world for another player. There's so much you evidently don't understand and your tunnel vision for "veteran leadership" is misguided at best. So in the end, Stephan learning from Parker had nothing to do with him being a veteran and everything to do with his knowledge of a particular pitch and how it helped him. That same advice can come from a rookie or any player in between. The means and ways of learning in baseball are almost infinite.

Having a veteran, that can no longer perform well, around just for their "experience" is a waste of fucking money and some(like you) think that the success of a team like Cleveland depends on it. I'm sorry coach, but I'm not the one failing to understand here.
 
CDAV45 said:
You got it wrong coach, and whose to say that a young person can't teach another? I don't know how long you played baseball, but I played for over 30 yrs of my life. I learned from every level of player. A veteran baseball player isn't the only one that can come in and say do this and net results that alter the world for another player. There's so much you evidently don't understand and your tunnel vision for "veteran leadership" is misguided at best. So in the end, Stephan learning from Parker had nothing to do with him being a veteran and everything to do with his knowledge of a particular pitch and how it helped him. That same advice can come from a rookie or any player in between. The means and ways of learning in baseball are almost infinite.

Having a veteran, that can no longer perform well, around just for their "experience" is a waste of fucking money and some(like you) think that the success of a team like Cleveland depends on it. I'm sorry coach, but I'm not the one failing to understand here.
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Hell, think of everything fluke child superstar Henry Roengarner taught his adult teammates in Rookie of the Year.

The most important lesson they learned? How to have fun again.
 
The Oi said:
Hell, think of everything fluke child superstar Henry Roengarner taught his adult teammates in Rookie of the Year.

The most important lesson they learned? How to have fun again.
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Wholesome post good sir.
 
The Oi said:
Hell, think of everything fluke child superstar Henry Roengarner taught his adult teammates in Rookie of the Year.

The most important lesson they learned? How to have fun again.
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I should have include in my post that the character of the individuals is just as or more important than being a "veteran". Seeing how character appears to be very important to this organization, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on keeping/signing veterans just because they're veterans.
 
CDAV45 said:
I should have include in my post that the character of the individuals is just as or more important than being a "veteran". Seeing how character appears to be very important to this organization, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on keeping/signing veterans just because they're veterans.
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Hell, if we’re talking character then look no farther than Dottie Hinson in A League of Their Own.

While the veteran Jimmy Dugan may have taught a team of young ladies how to compete at baseball, a younger Dottie reminded him why he chose to do it in the first place. And served as one hell of a mentor to her teammates in the meantime.

Avoid the clap.
 
The Oi said:
Hell, if we’re talking character then look no farther than Dottie Hinson in A League of Their Own.

While the veteran Jimmy Dugan may have taught a team of young ladies how to compete at baseball, a younger Dottie reminded him why he chose to do it in the first place. And served as one hell of a mentor to her teammates in the meantime.

Avoid the clap.
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Got any Air Bud 2: Seventh Inning Stretch wisdom to impart?
 
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