National Media and other poster's 2023 Prospect Lists

[petes999]

As for Kevin Kelley, for all the success Tampa has had, they have a worst pen than us (-0.2 FG WAR vs 0.1 for us). So you can win without everything clicking (but lose if you can't hit nor close games).

This is the one pick that I thought would be returned (due to their playoff status) but he is climbing up the ranks in a shambles of a pen. This is where what stats you focus on matters. BR has a -0.2 War attributed to him but FG has a positive 0.5 (mainly he has been in during Rays hitting outbursts that got him 3 wins vs 1 loss). But, has a 4.75 ERA, 18Ks in 22 innings. So, solid work (would help relieve some stress in our system) but nothing like a wow on 0.5 WAR. They will keep him for the foreseeable future - probably lost forever.

 

[Gson]

Mayo has upped the MLB Pipeline top 150 to the top 200.... quite a few interesting names added... not much change at the top..

www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/

Could be a good primer on the draft... now just over 5 weeks away...

 

[Cleveland is the Reason]

Mayo has upped the MLB Pipeline top 150 to the top 200.... quite a few interesting names added... not much change at the top..

www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/

Could be a good primer on the draft... now just over 5 weeks away...

Are you guys as into the draft as you are the minors here as well?

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Are you guys as into the draft as you are minors here as well?

 

[ajz20]

Well hopefully they draft and develop some power into the organization moving forward.

 

[sportscoach]

Are you guys as into the draft as you are the minors here as well?

@Tondo is the biggest guy with the draft on here, and some others like @Gson have solid knowledge as well. Hence the mock draft thread if you want to look at names. Bimbo would share what he could...

So near/at draft days, we will keep a thread going so we can figure out who we got since there is 20 rounds and most outlets only keep 200-300 players ranked (Aka 5-10 rounds worth)

With the international signing straight position players, don't be surprised to see us lean pitching this season with a college bat or two mixed in early... (at least that's my prediction)

 

[CATS44]

Well hopefully they draft and develop some power into the organization moving forward.

We've been drafting power for years.

These First round picks supposedly had power potential this century:

Conroy
Corey Smith
Aubrey
Snyder
Mills
Frazier
Zimmer
Benson

We've also had other high draft choices with supposed power, like Bradley and Jones.

I'd much rather draft position players with plus hit tools, because the hit tool is the foundation for development...including power.

 

[ajz20]

We've been drafting power for years.

These First round picks supposedly had power potential this century:

Conroy
Corey Smith
Aubrey
Snyder
Mills
Frazier
Zimmer
Benson

We've also had other high draft choices with supposed power, like Bradley and Jones.

I'd much rather draft position players with plus hit tools, because the hit tool is the foundation for development...including power.

Drafting snd developing go hand and hand . I was not just taking about HRs, but the ability to drive the ball and hit for higher averages . We have not developed enough of those guys .

 

[petes999]

So, this either proves someone's theory that our prospects lose value everyday and if not traded by AA, FO is just paralyzed or that these rags are not even worth the cyber paper they are written on (as they are sh!t). Tell me in what universe that Williams is not a top-25 talent but our ex-Guardian is???

MLB prospect rankings: Top 25 players re-ranked with Jackson Holliday, Elly De La Cruz at the top

Here are the best prospects in baseball nearing the halfway point of the 2023 season

www.cbssports.com

And, I can see a Bibee at 39 innings not being considered to be added as a top prospect even though they state 50 innings was used, but again, he isn't proving that he is more worthy of top-25 prospect status than this guy with better command and hitting 99 mph from offseason work???

25. Kyle Harrison, LHP, Giants (Double-A)​

Back in the spring, we noted that Harrison needed to demonstrate he could consistently throw strikes (he'd walked 4.3 per nine innings for his career) and work deeper into starts (4.4 innings per appearance). Much to our chagrin, that hasn't happened. In his first 10 starts this season, Harrison instead walked nearly a batter per inning and averaged just three frames per attempt. His mechanics will likely prevent him from having even decent command as he has a lengthy arm swing that sees his elbow creep up to his shoulder line, elongating his operation and forcing his arm to play catch-up to his body at foot strike. Harrison has thrown significantly more strikes lately than he did in April, and it's at least possible that the new Double-A ball is to blame. The Giants have to hold out hope that he can locate his fastball-slider tandem just often enough to stick as a volatile starter.

 

[Niklex316]

Wrap your heads around this one.. the Guardians took Carson Tucker like 6 picks ahead of the Dodgers pitcher Bobby Miller. Not sure which one is a bigger whiff.. including #17 overall Caminero is the Tobias Meyers deal… or that Tucker pick. Yikes.

 

[33Y0]

Wrap your heads around this one.. the Guardians took Carson Tucker like 6 picks ahead of the Dodgers pitcher Bobby Miller. Not sure which one is a bigger whiff.. including #17 overall Caminero is the Tobias Meyers deal… or that Tucker pick. Yikes.

The MLB draft is a crapshoot no matter who you take. It's not like NBA or NFL where there are "sure thing" locks to be stars. Very few anyway. The revisionist history of who teams should have drafted in MLB is a bad take.

 

[CDAV45]

Are you guys as into the draft as you are the minors here as well?

A few of these guys are. Tondo is an awesome information source for draft and low minors info. I don’t start following them until they show promise in Akron. Occasionally a guy will catch my eye in A+ ball but that isn’t very often.

 

[Cleveland is the Reason]

A few of these guys are. Tondo is an awesome information source for draft and low minors info. I don’t start following them until they show promise in Akron. Occasionally a guy will catch my eye in A+ ball but that isn’t very often.

Good to know, thank you!

 

[MadThinker88]

Are you guys as into the draft as you are the minors here as well?

Besides Tondo, Jeff Ellis & Willie Hood are very good sources for MLB draft content (projections, mock drafts, insights into players)..

 

[Tondo]

The MLB draft is a crapshoot no matter who you take. It's not like NBA or NFL where there are "sure thing" locks to be stars. Very few anyway. The revisionist history of who teams should have drafted in MLB is a bad take.

As someone who follows the draft process closely since the budgeted (and fair) era, this is wrong.

Yes, compared to NFL and especially NBA it's definitely more of a crapshoot, but it's not coincidence or luck that some teams draft and develop better players than others. I mean, isn't Cleveland known to be the college pitching factory?

There has been multiple examples over the past years where I or others (shout out to Willie Hood, who actually wanted Bobby Miller in that draft) had strong opinions and we're vocal for/against certain picks/non picks, especially in rd 1, so it's not hindsight for some of us is all I'm trying to say.