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Watched the first episode of Watchmen.

Loved all the little callbacks to the graphic novels and the movie. Looking forward to the rest of the season.
I have no idea where this show is going but so far I am on board.

People who haven't read the Watchmen comic (or at least seen the movie) have to be wondering what in the blue fuck is going on.
 

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I have no idea where this show is going but so far I am on board.

People who haven't read the Watchmen comic (or at least seen the movie) have to be wondering what in the blue fuck is going on.
I’ve done both and I’m still wondering what in the blue fuck is going on. :chuckle:

Can’t wait to see where the rest of the season goes. Lots of questions that need to be answered.
 

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I have no idea where this show is going but so far I am on board.

People who haven't read the Watchmen comic (or at least seen the movie) have to be wondering what in the blue fuck is going on.
I haven't read the comics or watched the movie. I was confused by the time shift but I assume that's going to come into play at some point (with the kids). Or was it just to establish the world they're living in and when the conflict started? It seems as though the show is going for more of a real world non-super hero version of the original. Unless they gain super powers through whatever alien force seems to be dropping squid onto cars. I don't know what's going on, but I'm here for it.
 

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I haven't read the comics or watched the movie. I was confused by the time shift but I assume that's going to come into play at some point (with the kids). Or was it just to establish the world they're living in and when the conflict started? It seems as though the show is going for more of a real world non-super hero version of the original. Unless they gain super powers through whatever alien force seems to be dropping squid onto cars. I don't know what's going on, but I'm here for it.
In the comic, there is only one actual superhero, Dr. Manhattan, who was scientist involved in a lab accident that essentially turned him into a god. He is the reason the US wins the Vietnam war in the books, and consequently Nixon ends up serving more than two terms as president after that amendment is repealed. There are other heroes, but they are more like Batman in that they have no actual powers.

You may remember them showing some photos from Mars last night with a blue guy building something. That is Dr. Manhattan, who became increasingly detached from humanity due to his godlike powers and eventually went into voluntary exile on Mars.

The squids are not an alien force, but rather the result of the actions of Jeremy Irons' character on the show. The world was heading toward a nuclear apocalypse during the Cold War, so Veidt (Irons), who is the smartest man in the world, creates a fake threat that forces the world to unite together. He killed three million people in the fake attack but prevented the world from ending. Not sure why the squids are still raining down some 30 years later, but I imagine we will learn more about that as the series rolls on.

Rorschach, whose mask is worn by the white nationalists on the show, was killed by Dr. Manhattan when he figured out what Veidt was doing and threatened to reveal the truth. However, his journal ends up in the hands of a right wing journalist at the end of the comic series, so presumably some of what he knew got out and likely created the Seventh Cavalry that wear replicas of his mask.

The scene from 1921 Tulsa references a race riot that actually happened where it's estimated that 300 to 500 black residents of Tulsa were murdered. Even the part about the planes dropping fire bombs actually happened. As for its connection to the events of the show, well, I'm willing to bet the old man who shows up at the end of the episode last night was the kid from the opening scene. Beyond that, it's hard to say exactly where this show is going just yet.

I'd recommend giving the movie a watch. It's a Zach Snyder film, so it has slightly less subtlety than a porno, but it is mostly a 1:1 retelling of the comic. The main difference is the ending, but since I already told you about the giant squid attack created by Veidt, you can just mentally replace that with what happens in the movie.
 

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In the comic, there is only one actual superhero, Dr. Manhattan, who was scientist involved in a lab accident that essentially turned him into a god. He is the reason the US wins the Vietnam war in the books, and consequently Nixon ends up serving more than two terms as president after that amendment is repealed. There are other heroes, but they are more like Batman in that they have no actual powers.

You may remember them showing some photos from Mars last night with a blue guy building something. That is Dr. Manhattan, who became increasingly detached from humanity due to his godlike powers and eventually went into voluntary exile on Mars.

The squids are not an alien force, but rather the result of the actions of Jeremy Irons' character on the show. The world was heading toward a nuclear apocalypse during the Cold War, so Veidt (Irons), who is the smartest man in the world, creates a fake threat that forces the world to unite together. He killed three million people in the fake attack but prevented the world from ending. Not sure why the squids are still raining down some 30 years later, but I imagine we will learn more about that as the series rolls on.

Rorschach, whose mask is worn by the white nationalists on the show, was killed by Dr. Manhattan when he figured out what Veidt was doing and threatened to reveal the truth. However, his journal ends up in the hands of a right wing journalist at the end of the comic series, so presumably some of what he knew got out and likely created the Seventh Cavalry that wear replicas of his mask.

The scene from 1921 Tulsa references a race riot that actually happened where it's estimated that 300 to 500 black residents of Tulsa were murdered. Even the part about the planes dropping fire bombs actually happened. As for its connection to the events of the show, well, I'm willing to bet the old man who shows up at the end of the episode last night was the kid from the opening scene. Beyond that, it's hard to say exactly where this show is going just yet.

I'd recommend giving the movie a watch. It's a Zach Snyder film, so it has slightly less subtlety than a porno, but it is mostly a 1:1 retelling of the comic. The main difference is the ending, but since I already told you about the giant squid attack created by Veidt, you can just mentally replace that with what happens in the movie.
Dude, that's awesome. Thanks for the rundown of the comic. Definitely feel like it's a show I'm going to like. Will watch the movie soon as well.
 

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HBO released a bit of additional info on the new Watchmen series that should be a valuable read for those of you who aren't familiar with the comics or haven't read much about the alternate version of 2019 the show depicts.

 

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Oh damn lindelof is in control of watchmen, didn't know it was running yet.

How is it
 

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Now that season 2 of Succession wrapped up, you guys can catch up on the best show on HBO.
 

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Just watched the first episode of watchmen.

I never got into the comics, but did see that abysmal movie they released a while back..

That first episode was incredible!
 

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In the comic, there is only one actual superhero, Dr. Manhattan, who was scientist involved in a lab accident that essentially turned him into a god. He is the reason the US wins the Vietnam war in the books, and consequently Nixon ends up serving more than two terms as president after that amendment is repealed. There are other heroes, but they are more like Batman in that they have no actual powers.

You may remember them showing some photos from Mars last night with a blue guy building something. That is Dr. Manhattan, who became increasingly detached from humanity due to his godlike powers and eventually went into voluntary exile on Mars.

The squids are not an alien force, but rather the result of the actions of Jeremy Irons' character on the show. The world was heading toward a nuclear apocalypse during the Cold War, so Veidt (Irons), who is the smartest man in the world, creates a fake threat that forces the world to unite together. He killed three million people in the fake attack but prevented the world from ending. Not sure why the squids are still raining down some 30 years later, but I imagine we will learn more about that as the series rolls on.

Rorschach, whose mask is worn by the white nationalists on the show, was killed by Dr. Manhattan when he figured out what Veidt was doing and threatened to reveal the truth. However, his journal ends up in the hands of a right wing journalist at the end of the comic series, so presumably some of what he knew got out and likely created the Seventh Cavalry that wear replicas of his mask.

The scene from 1921 Tulsa references a race riot that actually happened where it's estimated that 300 to 500 black residents of Tulsa were murdered. Even the part about the planes dropping fire bombs actually happened. As for its connection to the events of the show, well, I'm willing to bet the old man who shows up at the end of the episode last night was the kid from the opening scene. Beyond that, it's hard to say exactly where this show is going just yet.

I'd recommend giving the movie a watch. It's a Zach Snyder film, so it has slightly less subtlety than a porno, but it is mostly a 1:1 retelling of the comic. The main difference is the ending, but since I already told you about the giant squid attack created by Veidt, you can just mentally replace that with what happens in the movie.
I only remotely heard of that Tulsa Riot.

Jesus, WTF.
 

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Those episodes were great.

I liked the movie, actually, but this is much better.
 

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Yeah, The Watchmen is a winner. Narrative is somewhat straight forward, but you've got a lot of Lindelof randomness and disjointed storytelling that will somehow wind up connected. Like, where is this Veidt stuff headed??
 

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