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Is OP crazy?

  • He's a madman!

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Collins has a pick 6, Ogbah takes Flacco out of the game on a strip sack, Browns win in a laugher

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Browns lead going into the last minute and find an inexcusable way to choke it away

    Votes: 3 12.0%

  • Myles Garrett

    Votes: 19 76.0%
  • Total voters
    25
Randolphkeys said:
Took the wife to a concert, kissing up to her before I hit Vegas with the boys for the weekend. Show ends and I find out I was being tagged all over the site.

You need me.

Anyways, recorded the game. I'll probably just watch the part where McCown shit his pants.
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He does it bigly.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
You're seriously being ridiculous. I can't find a clip on twitter

Thomas got beat off the line, literally any QB is taking both hits
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But we aren't talking about taking a hit. We are talking about turning the ball over. McCown is a nightmare for ball security, and when a team has less than a 0% chance to win unless they are perfect, he does not give the Browns the best chance to win.
 
inliner311 said:
How does these help Kessler develop? He will now be looking over his shoulder waiting to get pulled. He was down a touchdown and wasn't throwing interceptions.
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This is where coaching comes in. hue apparently felt this was the time. NFL is an emotional game. a Guy can study and practice all he wants but if he gets yanked during a game. he is replaying every play in his mind vividly while his emotions are at their highest.

Does Kessler go into next week defeated or does he regroup and show some competitive fire.

Kessler will start again next week unless he is mentally weak but if you see a pattern of poor decisions the coach sometimes needs to try to put a stop to it before they become bad habits.


and another thing this is Thursday night football . it shouldn't even be played unless teams are coming off a bye week.

Troy Aikman is a hall of famer. he lost his starting job a couple games to Steve Walsh.
 
I'd rather live through 4 years of Trump than 4 seasons of the Browns torturing me.
 
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Stupid decision on benching Kessler. He has been our best QB this year, rookie or not rookie. I dont get the benching, he didnt look bad to me. But i guess he wants him to throw down field.
 
I thought Joe Thomas had a bad game by his standards, but the strip sack was at least partially caused by McCown's lack of pocket awareness and that long, slow windup.

If he recognizes outside pressure and slides forward half a step, that doesn't happen. But it's McCown and that's how he's always been his entire career so it's not surprising.

As far as Kessler goes...

He should be playing no matter what. I totally get that there's no downside when you're 0-9 to benching any player to try and send a message, but McCown not only doesn't have a future, but he's an outwardly bad player at this point.

Anyone with eyes can see that Kessler doesn't have the physical skills to really drive the football with velocity. That really limits some of the routes you can call with him. What ultimately concerns me a lot more is the fact he seems very slow to process what's happening in front of him. Slow to recognize pressure, slow to diagnose coverages, slow on everything basically.

You can chalk some of it up to inexperience, but he wasn't good at these things at USC either so it's hard to imagine it getting THAT much better.

That's a shame too because his accuracy, his ball placement, his touch and timing are all NFL quality. A QB can succeed with a weaker arm, but they need to be accurate AND incredible at the mental/information processing side as well (think Brees).

The tools he does possess should make him a quality backup long-term, but the Browns absolutely need to explore drafting a better QB.
 
I think people are writing off Kessler too soon. I understand why Hue pulled him...he seemed to have happy feet under pressure, which was starting to limit his effectiveness but he's shown more ability than most that have started for the browns at QB in recent years.

His TD pass had excellent touch. He goes through his reads (Go back and look at that TD pass...that was his 3rd or 4th read...he was scanning the other side of the field first)

Our atrocious line coupled with him not use to the speed of the NFL (slow to recognize pressure & coverage) has made him look...well...like a rookie should look playing behind the worst line in the NFL.

I think Kessler is the prototypical Hue project...intelligent player with some limitations...Hue's track record shows he values a high IQ players that possess leadership qualities and he has proven he can develop those guys into above-average QB's. We don't need the next Montana...at this point, I would take simply average...All i am saying is let's wait and see what he looks like with another year under his belt. I don't think the Kessler project should be over at the end of the season.
 
So, Are we going to rename the title of this thread ?
 
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