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Poll: 2021 NBA Draft

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Who are the top three prospects in the 2021 NBA Draft?

  • Jalen Suggs

    Votes: 33 38.4%
  • Evan Mobley

    Votes: 75 87.2%
  • Cade Cunningham

    Votes: 70 81.4%
  • Jalen Green

    Votes: 47 54.7%
  • Jonathan Kuminga

    Votes: 6 7.0%
  • Jalen Johnson

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Scottie Barnes

    Votes: 10 11.6%
  • Corey Kispert

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Franz Wagner

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alperen Şengün

    Votes: 6 7.0%

  • Total voters
    86
  • Poll closed .
With the way the NBA's going I definitely understand why more wings are trying to develop point guard skills. But as Cade found out, that's not an easy thing to do at the college level, let alone at the NBA level.
 
With the way the NBA's going I definitely understand why more wings are trying to develop point guard skills. But as Cade found out, that's not an easy thing to do at the college level, let alone at the NBA level.
I think he will be drafted to be an on ball dominant player though, no matter what he gets labelled as defensively. So in theory, he will be the point guard or forward to most rosters he is on. I think his first step is good,but not great. So often I see complaints of it is being called bad, by nba standards, yet it's scouted from college games, that are ignoring the double teams because is not that bad.
I can see him going first overall, and being the main ball handler, on half the teams in the lottery. Possibly, but less likely including CLE.But only because of the current roster construction, which should not stop taking the bpa, especially one that can play multiple positions , if that is what he is now.
 
I think he will be drafted to be an on ball dominant player though, no matter what he gets labelled as defensively. So in theory, he will be the point guard or forward to most rosters he is on. I think his first step is good,but not great. So often I see complaints of it is being called bad, by nba standards, yet it's scouted from college games, that are ignoring the double teams because is not that bad.
I can see him going first overall, and being the main ball handler, on half the teams in the lottery. Possibly, but less likely including CLE.But only because of the current roster construction, which should not stop taking the bpa, especially one that can play multiple positions , if that is what he is now.

I dunno, is Anthony Edwards a point guard? He was ball-dominant and had some decent games in the assist column, but he's clearly in a bucket-getter role. I think Cade will be in a similar kind of role, though I can imagine his team experimenting with him at PG from time to time.
 
I dunno, is Anthony Edwards a point guard? He was ball-dominant and had some decent games in the assist column, but he's clearly in a bucket-getter role. I think Cade will be in a similar kind of role, though I can imagine his team experimenting with him at PG from time to time.
tbh I think that is where the league is headed. Okoro looked pretty damn good on ball too. I bet Jalen green will in that role, same as KPJ does. Because they are not that good off ball, and elite on it.
I get that does not make them a floor general per say, but it is not like that is too far out of the rhelm of possibilities for any of the on ball scorers, unless they are also really good or better off ball. Most are not. Including Cade.
I don't know if anyone expects him to be just a scorer, I see him becoming a pretty successful playmaker as well.
It's one of the reasons I want to see garland improve further as a scorer, not just a floor general, because there are 3 or maybe 4 playmakers that can score in the top 6 of this draft and we are probably passing them up without knowing if he can.
 
This by-position format for big boards is fun; here's mine:

PG: Giddey/Suggs/Springer/Cooper/McBride
SG: Green/Mitchell/Jacquez/Cazalon/Grimes
SF: Barnes/Wagner/Cunningham/Moody/Kuminga
PF: Garuba/Prkacin/Johnson/Robinson-Earl/Liddell
C: Sengun/Mobley/Jackson/Garza/Sharpe
 
This by-position format for big boards is fun; here's mine:

PG: Giddey/Suggs/Springer/Cooper/McBride
SG: Green/Mitchell/Jacquez/Cazalon/Grimes
SF: Barnes/Wagner/Cunningham/Moody/Kuminga
PF: Garuba/Prkacin/Johnson/Robinson-Earl/Liddell
C: Sengun/Mobley/Jackson/Garza/Sharpe

Do you have Giddey over Suggs as a point guard, prospect or both?

Interesting you have Barnes as a SF (I do, too, but see many list him as a PF).

Where would you rank Mobley as a PF?
 
Do you have Giddey over Suggs as a point guard, prospect or both?

Interesting you have Barnes as a SF (I do, too, but see many list him as a PF).

Where would you rank Mobley as a PF?

I have Giddey over Suggs either way, but it's awfully close. I've changed my mind on that before and could easily change it again. Just think Giddey's height is too much to ignore...he could easily be 6'10"+ in shoes by the time he's done growing, and at that height, with his court vision...phew.

I actually went back and forth between SF and PG for Barnes. He had a higher assist rate than everyone on my board except Giddey, Cooper, and (by a hair) Mitchell. I really don't think PF is his natural position.

Mobley would be comfortably #1 among PFs.
 
This by-position format for big boards is fun; here's mine:

PG: Giddey/Suggs/Springer/Cooper/McBride
SG: Green/Mitchell/Jacquez/Cazalon/Grimes
SF: Barnes/Wagner/Cunningham/Moody/Kuminga
PF: Garuba/Prkacin/Johnson/Robinson-Earl/Liddell
C: Sengun/Mobley/Jackson/Garza/Sharpe

Yes, Giddey! I somehow managed to forget about him.

Prospects I like:
PG: Cade, Suggs, Butler, Giddey
SG: Green, Moody, Duarte
SF: Wagner, Kispert, Kuminga, (Jalen Johnson)
PF: Barnes, Petrusev, Kai Jones, (Garuba)
C : Mobley, Sengun, Garza (why is he so low on so many draft boards?!!)

If we get a top-4 pick, there will be some roster shake-up. Koby will have his job cut out.
 
Yes, Giddey! I somehow managed to forget about him.

Prospects I like:
PG: Cade, Suggs, Butler, Giddey
SG: Green, Moody, Duarte
SF: Wagner, Kispert, Kuminga, (Jalen Johnson)
PF: Barnes, Petrusev, Kai Jones, (Garuba)
C : Mobley, Sengun, Garza (why is he so low on so many draft boards?!!)

If we get a top-4 pick, there will be some roster shake-up. Koby will have his job cut out.

Yeah, I gave up complaining about it long ago, but don't understand why Garza gets so little love. It's clear that there's still room for unathletic bigs in the NBA if they're A. highly skilled offensive players and B. hoover up a ton of rebounds. Garza can definitely do those things, and his defensive playmaking (steals and blocks) is better than you'd expect considering his athletic limitations. I have him comfortably in my top-30, maybe knocking on the door of top-20.
 
In the modern nba, where most rosters have multiple players that can bring the ball up the floor ,beat their man off the dribble, bigs that can stretch the floor, there is really no real advantage in set plays that are too easy to defend.Not nearly as much as at lesser levels anyway. I cannot understand people stuck on trying to decide on player positions and needs based on them outside of capability as a defender. Can I guard a 7 footer or not, can I stick with a speedy guard or not.
You draft the player with the most two-way versatility in 5 years, and or the one with highest current skill level if you are lucky enough to find one skilled, that also has upside similar to the younger projects, in versatility in maybe less time.
Outside that I don't care what "position" you label it rarely fits the full skill potential anymore.
 
With the way the NBA's going I definitely understand why more wings are trying to develop point guard skills. But as Cade found out, that's not an easy thing to do at the college level, let alone at the NBA level.

I think you hope Cade is just really good grease. :chuckle:

Is he Luka? I mean, no.......but if he's a guy who can morph in and out of roles rather seamlessly, he's potentially a player that significantly raises the floor of a team but still has long term upside as a developmental on ball player.

A lot of people get caught up in the debate of what Cade is.....not here but the media at large....and then tend to insist he is a PG, when his skills and also the way you would want to use him at the NBA level are just in contradiction to that.

I'll be curious to see what his NBA destiny is........but I honestly think a team like the Cavs would be a great landing spot for him. Where he immediately provides value off the ball as a shooter and on the ball as a secondary playmaker.....where he doesn't carry the burden of the PG label nor land on a team that wants him to be a PG. Genuinely think he could flourish here, especially alongside Garland. So, he'll probably end up in Detroit, rotting away on that roster.
 
I think you hope Cade is just really good grease. :chuckle:

Is he Luka? I mean, no.......but if he's a guy who can morph in and out of roles rather seamlessly, he's potentially a player that significantly raises the floor of a team but still has long term upside as a developmental on ball player.

A lot of people get caught up in the debate of what Cade is.....not here but the media at large....and then tend to insist he is a PG, when his skills and also the way you would want to use him at the NBA level are just in contradiction to that.

I'll be curious to see what his NBA destiny is........but I honestly think a team like the Cavs would be a great landing spot for him. Where he immediately provides value off the ball as a shooter and on the ball as a secondary playmaker.....where he doesn't carry the burden of the PG label nor land on a team that wants him to be a PG. Genuinely think he could flourish here, especially alongside Garland. So, he'll probably end up in Detroit, rotting away on that roster.
Cavs could certainly do worse than Cunningham and his versatility. However , I don't think there is much chance he stays as the secondary ball handler. Not very long anyway, if they do take him in the top three, which appears to be the locked in window to get him.
It could work for sure, but does he take that role without resistance? I would be willing to bet his agent steers the Cavs toward another player, provided they make it clear he won't be the man here.
These lottery players ,especially top lottery options, are all easily expecting to be the best player on the Cavs day 1.
Finding the humble one is probably their mantra now.
 

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