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I agree Narl. This season we have the opportunity to a a big name player or two, something we lack. We still don't have a solid enough core group of players that we can build around. I think we should get our big name star shooting guard this offseason. We can worry about adding depth and role players around our main group of players in future offseasons.

The Phoenix-Dallas series could determine if the Suns are going to resign JJ or not. JJ is currently injured and could end up missing a good number of games. If they struggle without him, look for the Suns to be willing to dish out more money to JJ. But if the Suns can still dominate without JJ, they may see him as more expendable, opening up an opportunity for us to snatch him up.
 
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The problem is this team needs some defensive infusion as well as shooting and a pg!

I don't think we should spend our cap space on only role players but with a good GM and scouting work the Cavs can definitely pull some good players for less money through free agency!

The thing no one seems to care about is if we waste our money on only 2 players then that's it for the next several years!

I'll say it again if the Cavs sign a high priced SG and Z to what he is asking for that will pretty much guarantee that LeBron will walk when his contract is up.

Bottom line is Lebron wants to win a championship and if anyone is trying to build a team for anything else they may as well be pushing LBJ out the door!
 
Extremely well put Narl. We have no big contracts coming off our books basically again in the near future. We have to take advantage of the position Paxson has left us. We do need another prominent player alongside LeBron, particulary if Ilgauskas is not resigned. Players like Simmons, Watson, Chandler, Dalembert do nothing to ease the burden on LeBron. We would near have to turn ino our old Fratello days to eek out victories. I am sure that there is a better way. We need to be aggressive this summer and take advantage of this unique situation that we find ourselves in.
 
I was thinking the same thing. I'm no Phoenix fan and I actually am a Dirk fan but I almost the Suns win it all now!! No way they sign a big contract for JJ if they go far. Now if they lose to Dallas which I think they will that effectively means any chance of getting JJ is gone
 
NarlCavs said:
The Cavs aren't winning a championship next season. This is still a building process and all needs are going to be able to be filled at once.

I don't understand why people would prefer to use the Cavs cap space this summer on more role players rather than use it on a major core piece.
Do people realize this cap space is only going to be available this offseason? This could be the only chance for as many as 5 seasons that the Cavs will have a chance to add a major core player without having to give up talent in a trade.

This team needs a talent upgrade, not more 2nd rate role players that opponents don't have to gameplan for.

It is much easier to acquire role players than it is big time core players. When you have a chance to add a major piece you sure as hell better do it. Once a core of major talent is in place then you can go after the right kind of role players that fit around your major talent.
The Cavs can use the mid level and veteran's exceptions in the coming seasons to add the needed role players.

When did Ray Allen have an attitude problem? He's always beena solid pro and has provided strong veteran leadership this season in Seattle. If it was up to me, I'd prefer Ray Allen (or Johnson, Redd or Hughes) over Raja Bell and Earl Watson or whatever pair of secondary role players others would prefer.

Remember the Cavs aren't championship contenders yet and they won't be able to fill every need this offseason.


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Simmons an option but not best one

• Reader Mark Miller (Atlanta) wrote: ``Last week when mentioning guards, you didn't mention Bobby Simmons of the Los Angeles Clippers. WHAAAAT? The guy was the most improved player (in the NBA) and has all the makings of an ex-Clipper that Orange County fans gripe about for the next 10 years. He shoots, handles the ball, tough, all the above. What do you think?''

• I think that I don't know Simmons' game that well because he's only had one good year, and he was hurt when the Clippers played the Cavaliers. So I checked with a couple of NBA scouts who are paid to know these things, and both had him No. 5 on the list of potential free-agent guards for the Cavaliers -- behind Larry Hughes, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen and Michael Redd.

• Simmons is 6-foot-6, 228 pounds. He'll turn 25 in June, and spent most of his first three NBA seasons on the bench with the Washington Wizards and the Clippers. Last season, he broke out, averaging 16.4 points, shooting 46 percent from the field, 43 percent on 3-pointers. He took only 115 shots from 3-point land, so he's more suited as a mid-range scorer.

• Scouts say Simmons is best at small forward, that his ball-handling skills are just fair. I believe the Cavaliers would ideally sign a guard who can score and also play some point -- which is why I favor Hughes and Johnson. Defensively, Simmons is nothing special.

• There also is the Clippers factor. He played well on a bad team under little pressure, although 37-45 is good for the Clippers. The free-agent guard signed by the Cavaliers will be expected to produce and has to be an experienced, proven commodity. I'm not sure Simmons is at that level, at least compared to the others.

• If the Cavaliers can't sign any of the Big Four, Simmons would be a viable option. Word is Redd is not a lock to re-sign with the Milwaukee Bucks, as was earlier believed. He is looking closely at the Cavaliers and a few other situations, hoping to end up with a good team.

• When the Cavaliers talk to representatives of key free agents, the first question is who will be the coach? Most players are tired of the coaching instability in the NBA, and they want to not just be paid, but play for a franchise where the coach has the full support of the front office and will be around for a while.

Pluto pouring in a bucket of ice water on Lionel Simmons.
 
Simmons is a decent player but I'm hoping the Cavs are able to better than him with all their FA money. I might even be willing to just give the SG minutes to Jackson and Pavlovic next season rather than overpay for Simmons in free agency.
I just don't see Simmons as any huge upgrade for the Cavs or a real difference maker.
 
I don't want Simmons here at all.

I like the fact that the Redd rumors are starting to heat up again.
 
Top 40 Free Agent Shooting Guards
1. Ray Allen
2. Michael Redd (Player Option)
3. Larry Hughes
4. Joe Johnson (Restricted)
5. Cuttino Mobley (Player Option)
6. Eddie Jones (Player Option)
7. Bobby Jackson (Team Option)
8. Kerry Kittles
9. Latrell Sprewell
10. Ronald Murray (Restricted)
Notes: The player who may command the most attention on the market is Michael Redd. As a good, but not great player, Redd won't receive any maximum contract offers, but his ability to knock down open jumpers will have him on every team's wish list. ... The Kings will face several decisions in their backcourt. Is it worth picking up Bobby Jackson's contract option when he's missed 124 regular season and playoff games the last three seasons? Will they have to if Cuttino Mobley declines his option to test his value on the open market? Or will they pass on both to go young by re-signing Maurice Evans and giving more time to No.

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1 pick Kevin Martin?
11. Willie Green (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
12. Jon Barry
13. Casey Jacobsen
14. DerMarr Johnson
15. Juan Dixon (Option Declined)
16. Raja Bell
17. Keith Bogans (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
18. Maurice Evans (Restricted)
19. Kareem Rush (Option Declined)
20. Shandon Anderson

Notes: A change of scenery to anywhere will be in Willie Green's best interest. Philadelphia head coach Jim O'Brien refused to put Green and Allen Iverson on the floor together in the final four months. Given that AI put in 42 minutes per game, Green was left to waste away on the bench ... unless Iverson missed the game, in which case Green actually started. Talk about mishandling a player. Green took it in stride, though, and actually averaged 18.1 points and 3.9 assists when he got 30+ minutes after Jan. 1. He should be a prolific combo guard for the next decade. ... The same cannot be said for Kareem Rush, a former No. 1 pick who couldn't separate himself from a sub-standard set of shooting guards in Charlotte. Rush averaged 11.5 points as a Bobcat, but shot below 40% from the field. A one-dimensional shooter who can't actually shoot is not going to be in big demand.

21. Dajuan Wagner (Option Declined)
22. Anthony Peeler
23. Greg Buckner (Player Option)
24. Matt Carroll
25. Damien Wilkins (Restricted)
26. Richie Frahm (Restricted)
27. Ron Mercer (Player Option)
28. Eddie House
29. Laron Profit
30. Erik Daniels (Restricted)
31. Tamar Slay (Team Option)
32. Romain Sato
33. Steve Smith
34. Wesley Person
35. Horace Jenkins (Restricted)
36. Qyntel Woods
37. Adrian Griffin
38. Kedrick Brown
39. Dion Glover
40. Cory Alexander

Notes: Is Dajuan Wagner just not an NBA player or have the myriad of health problems he's endured sapped a promising career? We're sure the various ailments have hindered his growth, but his alarmingly bad 36.5% career shooting accuracy and mismatched body/game don't bode well. ... Damien Wilkins did just about everything wrong while in college -- leading him to go undrafted -- and just about everything right since to gain entry into the NBA. Wilkins' tremendous summer league play got him a deal with Seattle and his play this season even got him seven starts when various Sonics went down with injury late. The results were mixed -- his shot proved maddeningly inconsistent -- but the highs (21 vs. Portland, 20 vs. Sacramento) and his better-than-advertised versatility may lead him to riches after taking the road less traveled to the NBA.
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Top 40 Free Agent Small Forwards1. Grant Hill (Player Option)
2. Bobby Simmons
3. Vladimir Radmanovic (Restricted)
4. Kyle Korver (Restricted/Bird Rights)
5. Bonzi Wells (Team Option)
6. James Jones (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
7. Luke Walton (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
8. Eddie Griffin (Restricted)
9. Devin Brown (Restricted)
10. Gerald Wallace (Restricted)
Notes: Is anyone really available in this pedestrian group of small forwards? The only player who teams will have a clear shot at is this season's Most Improved Player, Bobby Simmons. Simmons has always been a rugged force, but his sudden offensive advancement is what's going to get him a substantial new contract. He can now score from outside, in addition to his traditional garbagework on the inside and at the line.

... The Bobby Simmons of next season will be Devin Brown, an impressive athlete and energetic presence off the bench whose shooting skills are now ready for prime time.
11. Glenn Robinson
12. Bostjan Nachbar (Option Declined)
13. Walter McCarty (Player Option)
14. Jason Kapono (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
15. Brian Scalabrine
16. Scott Padgett (Player Option)
17. Lee Nailon
18. Chris Crawford
19. Matt Barnes (Restricted)
20. Rodney Rogers

Notes: Bostjan Nachbar seems to routinely have moments of greatness that make you wonder if he's getting closer to putting it all together. The shooting skills are strong enough to make him worth the gamble that some coach is going to get him to play at both ends one of these days. ... Scott Padgett's maturation made it easy for Houston to part with Nachbar. Padgett is a hybrid forward with a knack for catching fire from outside and does an adequate job on the boards. A solid 7th man worth a couple mill.

21. Josh Davis (Restricted)
22. Ronald Dupree (Player Option)
23. Matt Bonner (Restricted)
24. Nikoloz Tskitishvili (Option Declined)
25. Calbert Cheaney (Player Option)
26. Devean George (Player Option)
27. Toni Kukoc
28. Ryan Humphrey (Option Declined)
29. Darvin Ham
30. Rodney Buford
31. Theron Smith
32. Ryan Bowen
33. Pape Sow (Team Option)
34. Jamal Mashburn (Player Option)
35. Donta Smith (Restricted)
36. Stacey Augmon (Player Option)
37. Damone Brown
38. Chris Jeffries
39. Bryon Russell
40. Jerome Beasley

Notes: Rookie Matt Bonner quietly finished 6th in the NBA in FG shooting and 10th in 3-Point Shooting amid the turmoil in Toronto. We're not sure where you play him, but there's always room for a guy who can hit shots at that rate. ... Skita, we hardly knew ya. While Darko Milicic has become the whipping boy for the misguided infatuation with International players a few years ago, Nikoloz Tskitishvili has been just as disappointing. The No. 5 pick in the 2002 Draft -- ahead of Amare Stoudemire, Nene, hell, even Jared Jeffries -- was such a monumental disappointment that Denver passed on picking up his option just over two years after seeing him as a future franchise player. He's still only 22, but his head-scratching lack of production may have back on a plane to Europe instead of remaining in the NBA.
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