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Realistically - How long will it take the Browns to be a top 2-3 seed in the AFC?

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The biggest issue is the division at times, since the Ravens and the Steelers are two of the best organizations in football and likely will be for a long time. Doesn't meant they won't have down years, but it will be hard to win the division for the most part.

Now that being said, we upgraded this team a lot in the last few years, but still probably too many unknowns to get that top status this season. Now possible wild card sleeper, yes, super bowl contender, eh... it depends on Mayfield and how the players they recently drafted/signed plus next years acquisitions via draft and free agency pan out. Is it very possible we are in the super bowl in three years time frame? Honestly yes if we keep our current talent and they pan out/reach their potential. I will give it two seasons after this one, before they could, no sooner though!
 
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Whenever we can go more than 3 years without firing a GM

And I’m not kidding. No organizational stability yields no top 3 seed. Dagg sent me the correlations
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I guess it all depends on how our team might fight back from adversity.

Well that’s a big duh. But our first 2 games are just brutal. At least we get home against the Steelers. But then traveling to NO. Now that can easily be 2 losses and we shouldn’t even be that mad about them. If we get blown out both games, then we can talk.

But even if we go 0-2, how can the team rally together, not get down and come back 4 days after NO to play our Thursday game against the Jets. Winnable damn game.

Then our next 2 are raiders/ravens.

I would be extremely happy coming out of our first 5 games 2-3. Now being happy with a below .500 record seems dumb, but how a lot of people are saying...until the Browns prove us otherwise, any little victories are great.
 
We could be better than Cincinnati and ravens this year.

Will we? I dunno.
 
The biggest issue is the division at times, since the Ravens and the Steelers are two of the best organizations in football and likely will be for a long time. Doesn't meant they won't have down years, but it will be hard to win the division for the most part.

Now that being said, we upgraded this team a lot in the last few years, but still probably too many unknowns to get that top status this season. Now possible wild card sleeper, yes, super bowl contender, eh... it depends on Mayfield and how the players they recently drafted/signed plus next years acquisitions via draft and free agency pan out. Is it very possible we are in the super bowl in three years time frame? Honestly yes if we keep our current talent and they pan out/reach their potential. I will give it two seasons after this one, before they could, no sooner though!
The Ravens have the worst roster in the afnc this year.
 
The Ravens have the worst roster in the afnc this year.

They are a well run franchise, they will be back in due time. I was just referring to the fact they have never been in the dumps for long, and I think they will turn it around, so it will be hard to be a top team if the division always seems to find a way to come out on top.
 
The biggest issue is the division at times, since the Ravens and the Steelers are two of the best organizations in football and likely will be for a long time. Doesn't meant they won't have down years, but it will be hard to win the division for the most part.

The issue is not so much Baltimore as it is Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh has rapist John Elway over that is to them, what a "Closer" is in baseball. Meaning if the Browns are playing a game close to them (let's say tied, or up 3), then he can march their asses down the field, get them to kick the field goal and then it's generally all she wrote.

....Pre-Rapist Elway? Well, I would imagine playing against the likes of Kordell Stewart, Mike Tomczak, Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox (02 Playoff game be damned) is a fair fight in our situation.

I think the division minus rapist Elway, and to a certain extent...Flacco, will look wildly different. It's not that those teams will be "bad", but they will be kinda dragged to being an average NFL team that is lacking a "closer". Suddenly those "Browns up 3 with 1:25 to go" will become more of a coinflip rather than pretty much a guaranteed "L".
 
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I have that same feeling the refs are going to screw us in the afc title game too
I suggest that we go back to selling beer in glass bottles at the stadium, as a deterrent to the possibility of this happening...
 
Its gonna be bittersweet if ever the Browns starts to be a middling team to playoff team in the next couple of years without Joe Thomas... that guy deserved to experience some winning moments in his career
 

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